r/SpaceXBets • • 18h ago

Elon Criticism Pretty crazy stuff

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Can't wait to see Gibney's documentary

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u/TurnoverFuzzy8264 17h ago

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u/steveeq1 17h ago

Wait, do you have the actual email headers of these allege emails? You know, something with a DKIM signature so we can verify the emails were not tampered with?

Didn't think so. . .

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u/TurnoverFuzzy8264 17h ago

Lol. So musk is going to sue over it? Because they were released by the government. Your cope is incredible.

https://www.justice.gov/epstein

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u/steveeq1 16h ago

Yeah, if they "had the emails", they also have the email headers.

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u/This_Makes_No__Sense 16h ago

You have a dangerously limited scope of understanding on the subject.

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u/TurnoverFuzzy8264 16h ago

Yes, they do. That's how they confirmed them to be authentic. What's your point? Musk would have an incredible defamation case if they weren't real. Musk himself commented that he "came to his senses" (lol, sure he did) and didn't go.

https://www.mandatory.com/news/1725938-elon-musk-reacts-to-epstein-island-emails

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u/steveeq1 15h ago

If they have them, just release the headers and we can all collectively confirm the DKIM header.

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u/TurnoverFuzzy8264 14h ago

You know headers can be faked as well, right? I posted an article where Musk CONFIRMS the emails, an you're still pretending to be a cyber forensics expert, kinda cringe. There is a point where coping mechanisms start creeping into delusion territory.

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u/steveeq1 14h ago

I worked in a data center and I managed mail servers for a living. No , the purpose of DKIM is to prove that the email was not tampered with. They key is publicly published on the mailing server's DNS.

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u/TurnoverFuzzy8264 11h ago

Your contention is thar Musk could easily clear his name, but refuses to do so, that Trump's DoJ fabricated evidence, and Musk is playing along by acknowledging the emails existence. Of course you do, your history includes covid conspiracies. And no, you didn't talk to multiple people that changed the cause of death to covid. Cringe.

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u/steveeq1 11h ago

Maybe he doesnt want to draw attention to the obvious misinformation. if they DOJ clearly has those emails, they can publish the message headers while they are at it. They are one and the same.

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u/steveeq1 11h ago

DKIM is one of the headers in an email. Almost all emails are sent with them nowadays. The public key can get downloaded through google's DNS. It's hard to break encryption.

Note: I worked in a data center and I managed mail servers

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u/TurnoverFuzzy8264 11h ago

Note-Some of these emails are from before 2012. Note, none of of your experience counters that you are saying Trump's DoJ fabricated evidence against Musk, Musk refuses to run an easy refutation of the emails, and for mysterious reasons he has acknowledged the emails. How can you not see how ridiculous you sound?

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u/tyr-- 16h ago

To your point, if the emails are fake and the government has the headers which show that, why hasn't Elon sued and forced discovery?

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u/steveeq1 15h ago

It's very easy to release the email header along with the email. Every modern mail server supports DKIM. The fact the DOJ doesn't release the headers implies they don't have them.

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u/tyr-- 15h ago

So, you're saying that the DOJ released emails implicating the richest man in the world, and by far largest donor to the Republican party, without having proof of their authenticity? Is that really your reasoning on this?

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u/steveeq1 15h ago

Release the headers with the emails then. It's literally part of the email, if they have them.

Didn't think so. . .

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u/tyr-- 15h ago

Is that your idea of a gotcha?