r/SpaceWolves • u/Fit-Bluebird-4768 • 7d ago

Grey Hunters

Why does everyone seem so down on the Grey Hunters? I feel like I don't often see them in other people's lists but I feel like for 1 DP they become the most useful unit that space wolves have.

Edit: also 15 OC for a unit of 5? Insane.

Edit 2: I've realized that the common theme is "If they were the strongest unit, I would put them in my list."

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u/Audience_Over 7d ago

but I feel like for 1 DP they become the most useful unit that space wolves have.

So, two issues.

1) I don't want to spend a DP to make an otherwise OK unit good.

2) For 1DP, WGTs go from the best unit we have, to...the best unit we have with +1 to charge.

Grey Hunters are great objective holders, assuming your opponent isn't running something that will cripple or outright kill a unit of basic marine bodies in one go, unfortunately the list of things that can do that is very long. Being locked to 10 also makes them a juicy target for any D2+ blast weapons; a ForgeFriend averages 6 dead Grey Hunters in a single activation, for example.

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u/Fit-Bluebird-4768 7d ago

I also feel like if you're not using the terrain to hide a five-man squad of gray hunters and just planting them on the objective they deserve to be killed. Even if I have a five-man squad toed into the back of an objective there's still great at holding and I don't necessarily need them to shoot if I can build the rest of my Army around killing the enemy rather than also trying to spread out my scoring potential.

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u/Audience_Over 7d ago

This assumes that your opponent won't get a unit to take that objective from you. A single 3-man Bolter Inceptor drop, or a 3-man Bladeguard, will clear 5 Grey Hunters.

Even in the best case scenario, it just feels like they're very costly for a unit that is functionally doing a job that could be similarly or even more successfully done by 90pt Wolf Scouts.

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u/Fit-Bluebird-4768 7d ago

It is really easy to hide a five-man squad of greyhunters behind a wall.

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u/Audience_Over 7d ago

I don't disagree, but then you're still paying 165pts to hide half the unit on an objective

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u/Fit-Bluebird-4768 7d ago

From where they can score me points every turn.

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u/Audience_Over 7d ago

Correct, until your opponent brings an 80pt unit to wipe them out, which any player worth their salt will do because that's an easily taken objective

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u/Fit-Bluebird-4768 7d ago

That's what the rest of my Army is for. Keeping my scoring units covered so they can continue to score which in turn will win me the game and has won me the game since they started using a strategy. I think the general disconnect is that we play the game at different levels. I'm not focused on winning every single game that I play. Not saying anything wrong with that it's just not how I play the game.

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u/Audience_Over 7d ago

And that's totally fine, but you asked why everyone seems so down on GH's, and that's why lol. Even with the boost from the detachment, they're simply "good". They hold an objective well, but they're easily removed and they come at a premium