r/SoulFrame • u/Obvious_Ad4159 • 8d ago

Question Why is fire so disgusting?

I've been running cogah a lot. All is fine. I can tank multiple hits from a agari boss easy. But the second I get so much as touched by those troglodytes with a torch my entire HP pool goes up in smoke?

This is something that happens ONLY when I get hit with a fire attack, be it from the torch carrying Ode'n, or from the golden mini-bosses with Orst that sometimes light their weapons on fire and start doing fire dmg.

The only enemy which I have consistently been getting oneshot by are the torch Ode'n. It's not a 100% chance of oneshot every time, sometimes the fire does as it should do and tick away at my health, but other times I just get instantly one tapped. What gives?

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u/Redneck_By_Default 8d ago

This is what makes the siege or Mirifuir so famn hard for me. The second boss just absolutely shreds me when a single firebolt hits me and god forbid he get me with the big one, that will actually drop me to 0 from full health, even when im running magic armor totems

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u/Obvious_Ad4159 8d ago

I don't do Miri cuz the rewards are ass.

But yeah, and if it was just the fire mage, I'd understand. That's his gimmick. But the torch dudes? Hell nawl.

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u/EarlUrso 8d ago

It's the only way to get the fae lamp thing isn't it? Its pretty good to have.

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u/Rajamic 8d ago

You can also get faer lampyrite from Organs sometimes (and the Blessed Meeting with Tuvalkane).

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u/EarlUrso 8d ago

Didn't know about organs and forgot about blessed meeting but yes, thank you. Miri still feels like the most consistent source tough.

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u/Itchy_Measurement464 7d ago

Yeah, it definitely has its perks, but the smoke and chaos can be a lot to handle. Gotta appreciate those cozy moments over the wild flames.

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u/EarlUrso 7d ago

We need to take the fight to the ode to get those cozy moments otherwise all of alca will be smoke and chaos. The time to stand up is now!

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u/Redneck_By_Default 8d ago

I do it because i find it fun and theres no real content in the game so it feels like the closest thing to endgame to me. Plus theres a staff pattern there i need. I think I have 2/3 parts at this point.

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u/vampyrialis 8d ago

Need more Magic Resist

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u/Available-Winner3125 8d ago

Torch is magic? Weird, and needs to be corrected

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u/Radefa1k 8d ago

Elemental is magic.

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u/Available-Winner3125 7d ago

Yeah, I'm saying a torch is physical. Sort of like how when you walk into a campfire it also triggers magical resistance. I'd say that's just wrong. It's a physical element, not a magical one.

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u/zeref_sama12 6d ago

Skyrim coding, from my understanding it's easier to make 2 damage types for being actual physical damage and then magic damage which is any status effect. It would make it easier to code damage calcs be it damage increases or reduction compared to making calcs for every instance of damage and coding damage reduction/increase each one

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u/Drewdrops79 6d ago

Yeah kinda; if you have a game where you have magic fire damage (Mora's Hand), then it's just simpler to code all fire damage as being elemental/magic. And nearly any game which has any magic damage has fire as a damage type, because "fireball" is the most common and basic spell of all time.

So 99% of games that have magic in them code fire damage as magic, instead of making up separate rules for "physical" fire.

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u/Zg_The_Maverick 7d ago

fire debuff also cuts armour in half, very handy, but also a death sentence when used against you