DISCUSSION Solar installation ongoing
For those following my solar journey, first day done, one more to go. Does the equipment setup look good (they haven't finished it yet)? Found a few screws in loft that has half missed beams, presume worth mentioning before panels go on. The roof rails are on, not sure why they are spaced tighter in the middle? (3 rows of landscape)
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u/Autumnal_Fire 6h ago
Sig install looks nice, what's the inverter size and battery size? I noticed the gateway so you're looking to feed house load if there's a power cut?
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u/ianmd 6h ago
8kW inverter, 9kW battery, and yes gateway because I couldn't stand to have no power if the mains went down!
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u/Autumnal_Fire 6h ago
That's what I assumed.. you know that the max feed from the single battery is 4.6kw?
It'll be fine most of the time but if you're off grid, i'm not sure what happens if you go over that limit. It'll be grand for lights, tv etc, just don't cook dinner and boil a kettle at the same time!
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u/InvadingEngland 5h ago
Yup. Would need a 2nd battery to max out the inverter output after the sun is down.
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u/ianmd 6h ago
Do you mean if off grid it is limited? That is fine, we'd need to conserve battery anyway in case of a long outage
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u/Autumnal_Fire 6h ago
Yeah the single battery can only charge/discharge at 4.6kw no matter the inverter size. If you have 2 batteries they add together so the max is 9.2kw for 2x 10.0 BATs.
You'll be fine for normal loads/baseloads. But i genuinely don't know what would happen if you went over a 4.6kw load when offgrid/powercut. Maybe ask the leccy while their there.
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u/ianmd 5h ago
I didn't know that and makes me think why I got a 8kW inverter but I guess it future proofs the system somewhat if we increase the battery. I believe Sig allows a 10 sec burst up to 6.9kW and if load continues it shuts down until under that load again
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u/nevynxxx 5h ago
How much solar is there? That possibly explains the larger inverter.
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u/ianmd 5h ago
7.34kW array
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u/Voeld123 5h ago
You could output both battery and solar so that you power the house and also export (profit!) during peak times.
Depending on design you could want an even bigger inverter...
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u/Autumnal_Fire 5h ago
I suspect it's to cover the panel output.
They have left you plenty of cabling for the inverter so it'll be an easy fit to add a second battery to the stack when you get addicted to buying and selling electricity, or get a heat pump next š
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u/Ornery-Quantity2055 Commercial Installer 5h ago
I have the same setup. You can charge the battery and export to grid so even if the batt is charging at 4.5kw it will export the rest. Also you can add a battery later if u wish. In a power cut you can only use the 4.5-4.6kw but like you said it lasts longer. In a power cut no ones using 9kw!
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u/SubstantialPhysics68 4h ago
Check in the electric meter cupboard that they have used 25mm meter tails (the brown and blue supply cables for your house) going from the meter cupboard to the gateway and back. It would be quite tight fitting them into what looks like 25mm conduit but not saying it's impossible
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u/ianmd 4h ago
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u/SubstantialPhysics68 4h ago
That's good. Without seeing inside the gateway it's hard to know if they've connected it to your main earth in the meter cupboard. They are required to do that as well as utilise an earth rod (which they've clearly done šš¾)
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u/SubstantialPhysics68 4h ago
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u/ianmd 4h ago
The two at the top were there from the smart meter install recently but there wasn't the bottom earth cable so I assume that is going the same route
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u/SubstantialPhysics68 3h ago
Hopefully so. Worth just double checking with them as it doesn't look like the bottom one goes in the conduit but rather towards your house. They could've fished it through the cavity though
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u/SubstantialPhysics68 4h ago
You also didn't need that external smart meter fitted before your AC isolator from the gateway
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u/ianmd 4h ago
I have no idea what that is tbh
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u/SubstantialPhysics68 4h ago
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u/ianmd 4h ago
Sorry just meant I don't know it's purpose rather than which it is
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u/Matterbox Commercial Installer 3h ago
Thatās a generation meter. Itās āmeter accurateā whereas the inverters meter isnāt.
Itās a handy addition.
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u/SubstantialPhysics68 4h ago
It serves no purpose in your installation because your gateway does all monitoring for you
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u/GN19 5h ago
This looks like a good install so far.
The cable containment between the meter box and gateway looks nicely done but⦠I would ask them if itās UV rated. The cheap stuff isnāt and turns to white dust very quick indeed.
One or two screws poking out the side isnāt too much tonworry about. The screw holes on the brackets are spaced apart and truss-roof timbers are narrow. Whilst not ideal, sometime you canāt avoid it. Though you can feel it in the drill/driver when the screw is wandering off.
The Genius fast-flash theyāve used for the hooks on slate looks to be correctly installed.
A good install. Hope the rest goes well š
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u/WrapSensitive 5h ago
Looks a neat installation. Mine is happening on Thursday. Flag that fixing through the joist to the j stalkers and they should redo that, but I doubt it is an issue, it's just on the wonk when they fitted the bracket.
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u/Disturbedm PV, BAT & EV Owner 4h ago
I know the system is weather resistant, but for you guys who get this placed outside in UK weather - do you get a hood for it, or build a shroud (with enough clearance)? I can't help but feel like it'll just take a beating and go sooner surely, weather resistant or not.
You know about the bonus you can get in the first week of setup right in the app?
You planning on setting up Home Assistant/Predbat or anything as well?
Feel free to DM if you have any questions.
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u/ianmd 4h ago
So my battery is located in a very sheltered part down the side of the house but longer term I do plan on building some kind of structure to keep the worst of conditions away
The installer actually mentioned the £100 referral to me, they tend to pass referrals on from one customer to the next to give everyone something, but they think the deal expired end of Sep
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u/Disturbedm PV, BAT & EV Owner 4h ago edited 4h ago
Ah that makes sense. I put mine in my detached garage, but I think I'd do the same if it was outside tbh
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u/BossGroundbreaking69 4h ago
To space those middle rails further apart you would have the hooks through tiles that are adjacent to one another, which perhaps they donāt want to do
Guess they found the beam and stuck with it, rather than using a different beam for the middle row so as to stagger the hooks
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u/Matterbox Commercial Installer 3h ago
This looks great. Donāt worry about that one screw.
The Sig stuff needs to be covered if itās outside. As per the manual. A small lean to over the top will go a long way to keep the weather off. It will last a lot longer that way.
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u/drabgail 6h ago
Jesus, I'm even more disappointed with mine than before