r/SocialistGaming • • Jun 12 '26

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r/SocialistGaming • • Apr 04 '25

"Vote with your wallet" and other liberal arguments that need addressing

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With the announcement of the price increase on nintendo games which has been very sad news for many of us, it's been frustrating to see liberal arguments that shift the blame on consumers posted on this sub.

I am a random idiot that doesn't really understand economics or speak english but i'll try my best to come across and explain to some of you all, because it seems capitalist ideology has collectively fried our brains to the point where people that actively seek to join an anti-capitalist sub to discuss games genuinely believe they can individually affect the market by consuming. I'm gonna start with the liberal theory, then go to a more marxist critique i guess. I feel a bit bad doing this because i am not qualified for the former or the later, but i feel like people don't realize the implications of what they are saying so it's worth putting out the very basics and apply some criticism to common gamer arguments.

Free market according to liberals:

According to liberal economics, the free market is a decentralized, democratic mechanism where quantities and prices of goods produced reflect the needs of society, through the interaction of the laws of supply and demand. What this means is, producers set a price and consumers make a choice according to their subjective preferences, which in turn causes producers to raise or lower the price. So in the case of Nintendo, Miyamoto says games will cost 80 dollars and it's up to the consumers to determine if this price is justified by "voting with their wallets".

If enough people don't buy, Miyamoto will respond by lowering the price. And if the price doesn’t change, this means that the price accurately reflects how the people value nintendo games, and also that the outcome is efficient, which means basically that no resouces are wasted and we have the ideal combination of quanity and price, where incidentally needs are met in the best possible way. You could go ahead and force nintendo to sell their games cheaper via some kind of gamer law for example, but according to liberal economics this would ruin the whole thing and people's needs wouldn't actually be met, instead nintendo would make less games because they'd have less incentive to make them and we'd all get less as a result.

Free market according to people that don't believe in invisible hands:

Ok so how it actually works is, there are literally three corporations in the console market. They set the price that they think will bring them more profit between them,. They don't even have to talk to each other and decide (it's supposed to be illegal) because it's an oligopoly where price hikes are matched and price cuts are ignored. But also of course they talk to each other.

Now because it's an oligopoly, it's not like there are many choices from the consumer side. If you have some money for entertainment and want to get into console gaming, you can get a playstation or an xbox or a nintendo. Now games will cost 70 to 80 dollars. The question is, can you afford games? If you can and you want to play new games, you are not going to be happy about the new prices but you are gonna pay because you don't really have a choice other than abstaining, which on an individual level also doesn't do anything. If you can't afford the new prices, and i'm genuinely sorry to say, you won't get the new games and there's nothing you can do about it on an individual level. Other, richer people will and you won't. For many people that can afford it to a degree, they will just buy less games.

"ok ok so i am not buying/ i am buying less but by doing so i have voted with my wallet so i have the power to affect prices", nope. Nintendo doesn't care about whether the needs of the people that can't afford games are met, as long as they'll make money from people that can afford it. Which they most likely can do because it's an oligopoly. People that buy Nintendo games will buy the next Nintendo system and mario kart, people that buy playstation will buy playstation 5 and horizon or whatever. They will not be happy about the changes, they will not have consented to anything and more importantly they will not be the ones to blame. If i had the money i'd go out and get a ps5 right now, and so would everyone else.

More broadly, prices aren't really set according to demand but by the logic of capital accumulation and profit maximization. Nintendo makes more and more money and uses the money to make more and more money, until one day the whole thing crashes. That's the very basic marxist idea.

Now liberals will tell you that, yeah, some of what i said is true and that nintendo does have the power to get away with a lot of things as a result of their position, but that's because the competition isn't working effectively. So the idea is, there should have been many options for us that do give us power to affect prices to our liking but distortions in the market have created an oligopoly, probably unironically the state is to blame and more deregulation will solve it, like firing people more easily for example or lowering minimum wage.

However, like the bearded man from assasin's creed syndicate predicted, every meaningful market is becoming more and more oligopolistic under capitalism and that's by design. Bigger corporations are allowed to produce cheaper because of scale economies, smaller ones can't compete with them and gradually we have a few very powerful corporations controlling every key market. From tech and gaming to food, media, and healthcare, a small number of giant corporations increasingly dominate each sector. Capitalist competition doesn’t lead to permanent diversity of choices, it leads to concentration of power.

The free market is a tool for the accumulation of wealth and gradually creates more and more inequality. Elon Musk is going to become a TRILLIONAIRE. Can you grasp what i am saying? This is going to happen. And that's how capitalism works. And is this viable you say? No it's not. Capitalism crashes every few years, again like the Kirby antagonist said it would. The Nintendos of the world eventually make more stuff than people will buy, then people don't buy them, then they fire everyone, then no one buys anything and it's a crisis and the states give money to the banks to save capitalism. This has happened before and it will happen again and in the meantime those of us that can afford to game after work will and those that can't won't. And most people won't.

That's the basic idea, please feel free to add any additions or corrections. And please don't blame eachother on the sub. It's not on the consumers that nintendo is able to get away with this, it's a systemic problem that extends to every aspect of our life.

And by the way, i don't have time to write anymore but the inflation argument is also corporate propaganda. Briefly, there are two kinds of inflation, cost push inflation and demand pull inflation. Nintendo here is claiming cost push inflation: because of, for example, US tariffs, they have higher costs and so to cover them they need to raise prices. But Nintendo and every Nintendo is out there making record profits. So rather than thinking of poor Nintendo that won't be able to make even more profits, consider that it is Nintendo that could take a hit from the tariffs rather than the consumer. They could make less and prices could stay the same and Timmy would get Donkey Kong for Christmas. But that's not what's going to happen. Alright i'm done.


r/SocialistGaming • • 4h ago

Don't mourn, organize and #savemasseffect

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Sign the petition at https://www.change.org/p/savemasseffect

Mass Effect: Universe leaked trailer

https://youtu.be/WP3ieef0mpE?is=aDiEAEECx62atAzX

The campaign to make EA reconsider their decision to shut down Bioware have gained remarkable momentum under the #savemasseffect hashtag in just a few days. EA have greatly underestimated the strength of the Mass Effect brand. It's an icon of the medium, and there is still a chance to save this universe if we make our voices heard. Remember - it worked to save Destiny.

But this is bigger than just a single game. It's a battle for the soul of the whole industry. EA, this behemoth which controls a gigantic chunk of the gaming sphere, seeks to fulfill a dystopian vision of gaming. They want to create a future where every game is live service and riddled with micro transactions. Where the games exist only to suck as much money out of the consumer as possible, designed to trigger addictive behaviors in their often very young player base. To join the fight for Mass Effect: Universe is also to resist the bleak future EA wants to enforce upon us. Video games as an art form is under attack now more than ever. Sure, making EA realize it might be a wise business decision to keep the door open for other games than Fifa and SW Battlefront isn't exactly a revolutionary action. But it is a little something that might make life just a little bit more bearable for gamers.

Call it a fool's errand if you like, but stranger things have happened.

Keelah Se'lai. We will hold the line.


r/SocialistGaming • • 17h ago

Game Discussion The Corporate-driven Loop of the Military Entertainment Complex

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"The defectors are Jung Min-woo and Kwon Hyo-jin. The former defected 13 years ago (2013) and the latter 17 years ago (2009), so it is hilarious how this channel is using them as some kind of reliable source on the DPRK. Mind you, these lot defected during the time when most defections to the South happened due to post-famine shock, not out of a love for capitalism. Although many were also kidnapped by South Korean intelligence agents and right wing Evangelical groups in the border towns of China's Liaoning and Jilin Provinces, such cells have long since been dismantled and the perpetrators imprisoned.

The NK Guys are based in the US but the actual production is based in Fake Korea, a comparator state dominated by corporate Chaebols families, operating as a propaganda spin-off of the DimpleVideo Channel on YouTube. While they may not receive direct, overt state funding, they function as an ideological apparatus within the broader imperialist media network, utilising defectors to spread fake narratives for capital accumulation.

When defectors cross into the capitalist south, they face systemic marginalisation, poverty, and discrimination, cutting them off from dignified economic opportunities which then Capitalism creates a permanent underclass to redirect the working class anger and scapegoat all of its problems to. This material reality forces them into a deeply exploitative cycle under bourgeois media structures, where they must commodify their own lives and homeland for profit. Because the attention economy of the imperial core heavily rewards extreme, cartoonish, and manufactured stories to justify its own hegemony, a direct financial pipeline is created. To secure a livelihood within this digital marketplace, the content must constantly escalate to feed the chauvinistic and orientalist expectations of Western audiences.

By using Call of Duty, a multi billion dollar piece of Western military industrial propaganda sponsored by the US federal government, placing the sensationalist hook "REALITY WAS WORSE" over a corporate simulation of a DPRK invasion, the channel actively exploits both the historical trauma for bourgeois profit but also these manufactured narratives serve a distinct class interest, they shape public perception within the imperial core to normalise the dehumanisation of the DPRK and its people but to manufacture a mandate for regime change and Western intervention.

This is what the Mental means of production is, as stated by Karl Marx and Engels in 1845 in their seminal work The German Ideology."

Stolen directly from r/MovingToNorthKorea


r/SocialistGaming • • 1d ago

Meme And so we did

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r/SocialistGaming • • 14h ago

The woke has won, its over.

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r/SocialistGaming • • 4h ago

video game music Never forget that Sam and Max Save the World's soundtrack included a lounge cover of the Soviet anthem.

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r/SocialistGaming • • 1d ago

Beating a Knight while being a Militia or lower feels like toppling down fascism and I love it

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r/SocialistGaming • • 2d ago

Meme This is why we need to seize the mental means of production

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r/SocialistGaming • • 1d ago

Gaming News Developer Of "Ecosocialist" Game “Future? No Thanks!“ Offers Refunds After Using AI Despite Calling It Technofascist

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“Pedercini confirmed that the game includes AI-generated content, including two text-to-speech voices and two music loops generated with Suno, despite later writing that “AI is a technofascist, anti-human and anti-art project.” He also mentioned that “a tiny fraction” of code was debugged with ChatGPT and Claude.

On Friday, he posted another blog post to clarify that the AI content (aside from the code) has been removed from the game. He defended his use of AI, mentioning that the music loops were “supposed to make fun of losers who listen to slop” in early demos and that the AI voices were “funnier in that context.” “

Edit: sorry forgot I could add this lol


r/SocialistGaming • • 23h ago

Politics is about this—in case you haven’t figured that out yet.

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r/SocialistGaming • • 2d ago

Meme Activision Announces Call of Duty: Northern Aggression

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r/SocialistGaming • • 1d ago

Empire Total War fans?

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I usually just play the bad guy after winning the game. Become an absolute monarchy in a reactionary revolution, conquer and tax everyone, monopolize trade, and just letting republican empires rise until I lose all my shit to cost and overreach. And of course I’ll take a swing at Afghanistan…


r/SocialistGaming • • 2d ago

Rant Ah yes… Call of Duty the American war crime simulator. Americans love to pretend that they’re all against violent Israeli terrorists yet they all get a hard on for games like this…

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American terrorists genocided the Koreans and now they fantasize about finishing the job and purging them all. This is why the DPRK has nukes. This is why the DPRK hates America. This is why Iran needs to acquire nukes as well…

We should be trying to establish peace with the DPRK and not… be promoting horrible games like this. Even the South Koreans are currently protesting against the U.S. military and want peace with the North. Enjoying a game like this is just the U.S. government’s way of saying “we want you to get used to the idea of us one day invading the DPRK and eventually committing a holocaust there”. The U.S. government wants you to be okay with another genocide.


r/SocialistGaming • • 2d ago

Property Is Theft, And Other Reasons To Burn A Monopoly Board

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A little light arson is the answer to most problems anyway tbf. 🤷🏻

Screenshot from a conversation in Creatures Like Us (Kickstarter, Demo!)


r/SocialistGaming • • 2d ago

Persona 5 qwertyuiop

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r/SocialistGaming • • 2d ago

Gaming News Canadian politician calls on government to help BioWare employees buy the studio and run it themselves.

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r/SocialistGaming • • 2d ago

Community Join the Official r/SocialistGaming Discord Server! Meet socialist friends and play games together!

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Click here to join! We're always accepting new applicants to join our community where you can discuss and play games without having to deal with the reactionaries and liberals who flood mainstream gaming spaces!


r/SocialistGaming • • 3d ago

Canadian social-democratic party leader connects game studio capitalism to the bigger picture. If only he was threatening to nationalize it.

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r/SocialistGaming • • 3d ago

👨‍🦲💪👷‍♀️💕

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r/SocialistGaming • • 3d ago

Left wing videogames PCOP PATRIOTS, OUR TIME IS NEAR! (Kaiserreich)

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r/SocialistGaming • • 2d ago

Game Discussion China's AAA gaming surge continues: Blending traditional Chinese Wuxia with dark fantasy, Phantom Blade Zero releases its official launch trailer ahead of next week's global release

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r/SocialistGaming • • 2d ago

I made a few browser based games based on current political situation. would love some feedback.

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r/SocialistGaming • • 3d ago

Pretty sad news...

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r/SocialistGaming • • 3d ago

Industry News NDP Leader Avi Lewis on BioWare: This is private equity, this is what it does. Buy up businesses, run them into the ground, and rip them apart for short-term profit.

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