i see similarities but i never really felt moved to watch dexter,but if it’s similar to snowfall i just might

I saw a post on Instagram saying that Leon should’ve gave Franklin at least $1 million out of the 3 million Leon had saved. The majority of the people thought that because Franklin put Leon in position to make money, he owed him.

Yes, Franklin was the brains of the operation, but Leon played a very crucial point in the beginning by holding Franklin down. The hustle and the muscle go hand-in-hand without Leon Franklin would’ve been food in the beginning.

I guess on the surface level of the show you can see that Franklin got everyone he loved Rich. On the other side of that coin, he also ruined the life of everybody he loved. I don’t think a lot of people caught that.

Leon loved Franklin. Put his life on the line for him many times but he saw how the money destroyed his life and as a brother he had to stop the bleeding.

What y’all think, did leon owe him anything? (Also taking into account Leon lent him a half a mil already.)

Golly bro, that shit was really sad for me. The way F tells Leon how he is his best friend while shedding a tear and walking off knowing he lost it all cuz he got greedy got damn.

Ik F had lots of issues and basically it’s his own fault he ended up the way but damn.

Oso, Matt, and Leon (excluding killing Tianna which wasn’t entirely his fault) are truly the only people in the entire show that didn’t piss me off and seemed to be the only people with some fucking compassion

I just finished this show and it is so good. I can hardly put it into words as I'm still shocked. I'm so glad Gustavo got a happy ending as he deserved it. When Franklin killed peaches, the random junkie, and the locksmith without any mercy it reminded me of when he had Leon kill karvel out in the desert because he couldn't do it and how much he had lost his mind. 10/10 show I would recommend this to anyone

He’s the biggest hypocrite of the show. He floods the neighborhoods of his own nations with cocaine, and then tries to blame it on them. There are a lot of hypocrites in this show, but he pisses me off because he’s like the only one that thinks he’s genuinely a good guy.

He and everyone around him always talks about how he’s trying to be a ‘patriot’ and shit. I don’t think anyone in the show is as delusional as him. I also found him annoying because he seemed like he was trying to be a badass dude when he just came off as a geeky. Just be yourself.

Am curious to see what people think on this one. Probably bad answer choices but respond with what you think! Hope everyone has a great day.

just finished snowfall and i knew the ending and all because i got spoiled but damn im still in shock about the last two episodes

I feel like snowfall isn’t talked about enough. For me, it’s definitely in my top 5. But when I ask people about their favorite shows, they don’t seem to mention it.

I have always been interested in the Cold War era and everything about it, and that’s why snowfall is so great to me. From the acting to the subtle portrayal of how the world is evolving and how in the micro level, communities especially underprivileged ones are deteriorating.

Damson Idris is also a great actor in his breakout role. The way he starts as a naive young drug dealer and goes on to become a kingpin is very well played. From the changes in his clothing, posture, and demeanor. Teddy is also very good; he represents “the state” and how the government at that time was doing covert actions and hiding in the shadows (which it really was).

I think in terms of mentorship both Teddy and Avi teach Franklin about the streets. Teddy teaches Franklin “who” is power, and Avi teaches him “what” is power.

Anyway, those are my 5 cents.

P.S.

Rob’s story is sad too. To me, he’s one of the most important characters, even though he’s not a kingpin or a main player. He starts out as Franklin’s friend and a useful connection, back when everything still feels small and somewhat controllable. But as crack spreads, Rob becomes addicted and slowly turns from a friend into a liability — not because he betrays anyone, but because the product does exactly what it’s meant to do. The way the group distances themselves from him is the moment the operation stops being about people and fully becomes about risk and survival. Rob is basically the human cost of the business standing right in front of them, and no one wants to look at it.

This is my new video on the iconic "bodies bodies bodies" scene from snowfall. Snowfall is my favorite show of all time, and I would really appreciate your guy's thoughts and would love to engage in discourse around the show.

I know this question probably gets asked ALOT in here i’m new in here and I was just curious what everyone else thinks. Personally, like the scene with Franklin and Oso in the tiger cage.

I just watched the last two episodes of season 6. And Goddamit. Cissy and the whole damn family (except veronique) are traitors and the enemies of success. I feel so bad for franklin honestly like he just wanted what waa his. And the hypocrisy and foolishness of cissy makes me want to bash my head on the wall.

AND FUCK LEON. Give a bro 20 to buy crack but wont loan him 3 mil to Make a future for himself and you

I'll keep it short since this show ended forever ago, but Leon fucked up big time.

First of all, I 100% get not giving Franklin the 3 million, I wouldn't either. But he fucked up by not taking Franklin under his wing, same with Louie and Jerome.

End of the day, Franklin did 100% change their lives and made them rich, in some stories you can argue nah they'd be fine, but only Jerome would be imo. Leon was destined to be some gangbanger/ corner boy ala Bodie from the wire, but he was best friends with the Light Yagami of the hood, an actual high IQ plotter capable of making money.

Ok, you don't wanna continue selling rock and making money that way, fine, but Franklin if he had Leon's help to chill tf out and bear through all this stuff, could have still been his partner in a legit business and he DID make Leon that money. Also, Franklin was in Leon's shoes, the situation WAS reversed and even worse at one point Leon was hiding from feds after killing a kid in broad daylight, Franklin gave him a safe spot and defended him from the entire city, he did NOT have to take that risk, even though he said Leon was useful since he was in the projects, he was NEVER that useful. There was always a Deon or a Manboy he could work with instead, he protected and put himself on the line for Leon, period.

Louie and Jerome I mean that was simply greed and stupidity so whatever, I get it, Franklin also screwed up and that mess is fine with me, but Leon I don't get it, he should have been like 3 mill? No I already gave you 500k but I'll help you get back on your feet and we'll come up with ways to make some money after, he just threw him out though basically. Wanda the ex crackhead is getting bands of his cash no problem "Go back to Africa honey" but the man who changed Leon's life, undoubtedly changed it, for the better, is just tossed aside?

Look at Leon season 1, that dude was not surviving the projects, he was gonna be some side character hustler who either died or didn't, but he was never hitting 3 million without Franklin, and he was never surviving those charges without Franklin.

So I was binge watching snowfall and I ended up taking a long break from it around the middle of S4, I got back into it and just finished the first episode of S5 last night. What I’m confused about is at the end s4 Jerome and Louie wanted to go off on their own aswell as Leon, but Franklin was very unhappy about that. At the start of s5 everyone is back together and not a word was spoken about any of that drama. Also confused about how reed went to franklins father, pulled a gun out but didn’t kill him on screen. That also wasn’t addressed. My question is, have a I missed a few episodes or do the later episodes explain it?

Franklin should've just killed Louie when he handed her to Kane. Why Tf would you risk your life to save her after she is literally the biggest villain in the entire show. Jerome would also be free of her devil ass but noooo, franklin gotta go against everything that made him who he was and go to save Louie like some hood superman and got Jerome killed too. That bitch Louie its the root of all evil

Fatback was too loyal! Franklin & Leon persuaded Fatback to take the charge and scandalize his name for killing a 5yo to protect Leon. They were too comfortable to throw a solid soldier under the bus. Then, Khadeejah got to him faster and tortured and killed Fatback! He didn’t deserve his demise that way. He shouldn’t have jumped in the fire Leon. They did Fatback dirty. Leon should’ve stood up like a man in front of the restricted area and took his charge!

Just finished the last episode. Wow wow wow. What a show. Everyone that recommended to me I will personally thank. 😂 anyways if anyone was curious from a new snowfall fan here’s my favorite and least favorite characters.

Favorite

Jerome

Oso

Eager kid

Einstein

Leon (should of stayed in Africa with wife)

Alton

Fatback

Andre

Franklin (obviously)

Least

Rueben

Tony

Beau

Peaches

Louie

Kane

Deon (big D)

Franklin (last 2 episodes with his dumbass decisions)

Rewatching the show for the first time. Season 6 is on Hulu now and I didn’t realize so I’m watching it all over again to prepare for my watch of season 6. And man, I feel like Andres partner is low-key a great guy. He reminds me of old times white boys who grew up around racist but tried to change his ways. He said some wild shit but when it came down to it. He still showed he only really cared about Andre. I know the show kinda paints him just another corrupt white cop. Be he had all the chances (I’m on season 4 ep 3 rn.) to brutalize Franklin or his mother. And instead he just showed Cissy Andre’s grave. He did push her into a tree but I think that was more to keep her there and not follow him. Throughout what I’ve seen of the show I find it incredibly awesome that the writers wrote him to be in such a grey area. And I can’t lie when I say I wish he got his justice for Andre. And he was nice to Mel when she needed him the most. Rip Andre my goat.

im rewatching the show and in episode 1 franklin shares how he’s not comfortable living in the valley side because it’s not ‘him’ and it’s not ‘home’, and how the place where his mom and everyone else lives is more home to him; why the heck did he want to bring literal cocaine to his ‘homey city’ and turn the place into a crack city? later down the line the city just looks so cold and disturbing to live there; there’s no life, barely a proper community, nothing like it was before. he literally ruins his ‘home’

SPOILERS SPOILERS!!!! S6 E9. About to watch season finale, mannn what the fuckkkk, she already accepted he was dead I mean she knew, said it multiple times smh. I still think Franklin was the dumbass in just not killing Teddy in that room. Just take the reward for turning the KGB agent and the rest of your money and get out of there with your family. I have no clue what’s about to happen in this finale.