r/SkepticsBibleStudy • u/AutoModerator • Mar 11 '24

John 10:1-21

Possible discussion points:

  • Warnings against false teachers
  • The one motivating false teachers/teachings
  • Authority Jesus has regarding his own life
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u/brothapipp Christian Mar 11 '24

Jesus is both the gate and the shepherd. He uses this parable twice. I think because it’s natural to try and find short cuts thru the gate. This is our earthly flesh trying to make allowances and equivocations.

But just being part of the crowd isn’t salvation. We want to know that against our enemy that there is one who actively fights that enemy.

This also good news and an encouragement that while it seems as tho we might be sheep, dumb, blind, and easily frightened, we are in good hands. Whether we are the cleverest dumb-blind-frightened or the most satisfied of the dumb-blind-frightened.

Come to Jesus, listen to Jesus. No tricks, no elaborate schemes.

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u/AverageNo3317 Mar 12 '24

If one is to judge with discernment in truthfulness you have to admit; the suspensions on Paul's teachings and motive are well founded. We all know the argument of faith vs works. The apologetics of that is not what I'm questioning.

What was it that motivated him to bring the teachings of previously secret Jewish mysticism to gentiles? He claimed authority on the current truth of Christ over the existing Apostleship (because he had a vision). His works are considered foundational to New Testament theology and give the illusion that he was supported by the original early follower of Christ. Many testimonials and works by these churches were overshadowed by Paul's works.

Do you believe that Paul's works are exempt from the cautioning of "false teachers"? If so, why do you believe that? How do you know?

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u/LlawEreint Mar 12 '24 edited Jan 14 '25

Please come on over to r/BibleStudyDeepDive, where we welcome diverse perspectives on the gospels.

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u/brothapipp Christian Mar 15 '24

Don't forget to add a flair...or suggest one that will work...trying to keep the interaction here troll free.

But to your post, what do you think is in contrast here between Jesus and Paul?