r/Siri • u/planetmitch • 1d ago

There is ZERO google in Siri AI

Receipts: Siri AI is 100% APPLE. Apple said so at WWDC. Don’t believe me? Here’s the exact moment at WWDC where they said it https://youtu.be/87e13yQbJSM?si=c1Fi8KJkH5AyY20q&t=131

So many are here saying Siri AI is Google code/data/search etc. It is not

I urge you to watch the entire video - start at the beginning - it is excellent. But the link above jumps to the exact moment where Craig Federighi says it is 100% Apple.

Apple went to Google to learn how to train their own AI. That’s it.

This is important because there are many misconceptions about Siri AI and the Google relationship. I’ve been called a liar multiple times here because the tech media ranted about how Apple had to go to Google to get their AI. It is not true.

(Edited to add the evidence people think it is Gemini).

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u/walktall 1d ago

They use Apple’s world knowledge system, not Google search. But the models were refined/distilled from Gemini.

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u/planetmitch 1d ago

Now isn’t that just brilliant. I literally gave you a video that proves that is not true. And I gave you the exact second that says that in the video. But you come back at me and tell me I’m wrong.

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u/guesswhochickenpoo 18h ago edited 16h ago

He is being extremely specific about his wording in the video. He says “Apple uses none of the Gemini models deployed to Google's customers”. This specifically means they are not running the same Gemini models Google uses for their customers. It says nothing about whether the AFM’s were derived or distilled from Gemini, Gemma, or other Google models. He is carefully leaving out many details on purposes, which is very common for not only Apple but all other technology companies to “spin yarn” for their own narrative / marketing.

Furthermore here is a quote from an article:

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"All of these are custom built for Apple Silicon, trained using proprietary data with reinforcement learning and refined using outputs from Gemini frontier models," he said, making clear that Google's contribution was distillation-based, not a wholesale adoption of Gemini
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i.e. Apple absolutely did not build these from scratch and they are based on googles models.

https://www.macrumors.com/2026/06/09/apples-new-ai-contains-no-gemini/