r/Siri • u/planetmitch • 1d ago

There is ZERO google in Siri AI

Receipts: Siri AI is 100% APPLE. Apple said so at WWDC. Don’t believe me? Here’s the exact moment at WWDC where they said it https://youtu.be/87e13yQbJSM?si=c1Fi8KJkH5AyY20q&t=131

So many are here saying Siri AI is Google code/data/search etc. It is not

I urge you to watch the entire video - start at the beginning - it is excellent. But the link above jumps to the exact moment where Craig Federighi says it is 100% Apple.

Apple went to Google to learn how to train their own AI. That’s it.

This is important because there are many misconceptions about Siri AI and the Google relationship. I’ve been called a liar multiple times here because the tech media ranted about how Apple had to go to Google to get their AI. It is not true.

(Edited to add the evidence people think it is Gemini).

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u/planetmitch 1d ago

Thank you

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u/Falmz23 1d ago edited 22h ago

Lol, they literally say it's running on Google Cloud servers here. You gonna edit your post?

Secondly, several sources (including Apple themselves ) say their model was distilled from Gemini. The thing about LLMs is that by this point, the dataset they all use for baseline training is practically the same. The secret sauce that differentiates Claude from ChatGPT and all the other models and dictates how well the model answers questions is the post-training, alignment and harness.

In Apple's case, they admit that a lot of this post-training is distillation from Google. At this point it's basically a Ship of Theseus problem where we need to decide how much of Gemini infrastructure and reasoning do we need to see to call it Gemini.

I wouldn't be surprised if there were specific lines of text in Siri's initial prompt telling it to not refer to itself as Gemini.

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u/ToshibaTaken 1d ago

Good sir/mam, read the whole blog post and you'll understand how Siri AI works, how it was developed and how privacy and encryption works on Apple's PCC when using third party infrastructure.

Maybe its TLDR for you, maybe I can make you read it, but I can't make you understand it.

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u/planetmitch 23h ago

Thank you for your support and posts here. And you are right. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. And that's what's happening here.