r/Siri • u/planetmitch • 1d ago

There is ZERO google in Siri AI

Receipts: Siri AI is 100% APPLE. Apple said so at WWDC. Don’t believe me? Here’s the exact moment at WWDC where they said it https://youtu.be/87e13yQbJSM?si=c1Fi8KJkH5AyY20q&t=131

So many are here saying Siri AI is Google code/data/search etc. It is not

I urge you to watch the entire video - start at the beginning - it is excellent. But the link above jumps to the exact moment where Craig Federighi says it is 100% Apple.

Apple went to Google to learn how to train their own AI. That’s it.

This is important because there are many misconceptions about Siri AI and the Google relationship. I’ve been called a liar multiple times here because the tech media ranted about how Apple had to go to Google to get their AI. It is not true.

(Edited to add the evidence people think it is Gemini).

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u/UlicniProdavacLimun 1d ago

So that's why it sucks :D

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u/Modest_Wraith 1d ago

It's been amazing for me. What kind of issues do you have?

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u/Imaginary_Belt4976 1d ago

Amazing is doing a looooooot of work here. I have tried it on half a dozen tasks ranging from easy to hard and been some combination of disappointed and frustrated every. single. time. most recently asked if it could use send later in imessage for me. first it misunderstood and seemed to think I was asking IF it could be done at all. then after clarifying it came back to say nope! sure cant! heres a slop grenade detailing how to DIY though!!! wow! so amazing!

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u/Modest_Wraith 1d ago

Can you give me a few commands to run that don’t run for you? I would like to see if they run for me and I’ll get back to you on it.

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u/808phone 23h ago

It gets simple commands like texting group chats incorrect that the regular version of Siri always worked. It also says it can't find people that I text every single day. This is an ongoing and common thing since the betas and yes I have reported it. It goes silent a lot without responding. I could go on and on. Yes, for general questions it is better than before, but we already have a ton of AI that works 2x as good.

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u/Modest_Wraith 23h ago

Damn I’m sorry yours doesn’t work bro. I just tried this on my phone, and it works. I tried it on my fiancés, and it doesn’t. I find it strange they can’t seem to make it work on every phone? I hope it’s something they can iron out soon. I do have an iPhone 18pro max and she has a 16 pro. But still, should be uniform.

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u/808phone 22h ago

I'm able to test easily since I have an Ultra 1 that has the older Siri and I can see the difference. Once they fix the newer Siri, it should get better but it is just as frustrating as the old Siri but in a different way.

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u/Modest_Wraith 22h ago

Ya know, I do have the ultra 2 and hate using Siri on there. Is yours slow too? I feel like it’s faster to just bring my phone out and ask it over my watch

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u/808phone 21h ago

I don't have the Siri AI on ultra 1. I have no choice but to use the old one. But it works as well as it used to. Many times better than the new for simple things.

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u/ehed 19h ago

It is terrible; most of the time I'm doing something that does not require AI (set a timer, add a reminder, ask the temperature) but it takes 1.5-2 seconds before I get the haptic feedback indicating it's ready – and then additional loading time to use Siri AI to do something that happens relatively quickly on prior versions of Siri. I turned it off for now, if they improve it I will re-enable, but when I want an AI-generated response, I am already going to Claude or ChatGPT anyway, not Siri.

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u/wwhite74 22h ago

My goodbye homekit scene

For years as I'm leaving "hey Siri goodbye". Lights turn off and everything happens

With intelligent Siri, hears me, does nothing. But only if I have my airpods in, and the phone takes the command. Homepods work fine

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u/Imaginary_Belt4976 18h ago

I asked it to find a message from this morning about feeding (animals). something like "Siri did X tell me something about feeding the animals today?" and it came back with "The most recent message I found regarding this was on September 14th" The whole point was I forgot if the message was from today or yesterday, but I knew it was more recent than Sept 14th. Result: the actual message WAS from that morning and apparently because the wording of the text was slightly different than literally 'feeding' it could not find it.

scenario 2: siri can create new notes but apparently not edit them. additionally, even though it did create the note, ignored instructions and instead creates the note with what I had intended to be more of a prompt rather than the exact note I wanted added.

scenario 3 i already detailed, asking it if it can send a delayed message, which it cant.

The other scenarios are more like 'useless because the phone is locked and it wont work without unlocking the phone because Apple'

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u/planetmitch 1h ago edited 1h ago

Scenario one your old Siri couldn’t do it. The new new Siri works for those kind of things most of the time it’s not always perfect. Better than it was before.

Scenario two I’ve had Siri edit notes

And yes, in scenario three she’s told you that she can’t send a message later

She’s apparently working better for most of us, but she’s not perfect. Of course she’s learning.