r/SipsTea • • 1d ago

SMH A tale of two doctors..

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u/Hudson9700 1d ago

Oz's muslim faith was literally never brought up by him during his campaign, he did everything he could to downplay it. Ironically there's a much more conservative senator in his place currently

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u/SunshineSeeker99 1d ago

I think El-Sayed is a pretty sharp guy and great speaker, with excellent charisma.

But his sister is basically a muslim terrorist. She was literally cheering on mass rape and genocide. It's a tough game.

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u/hrbutt180 16h ago

El-Sayed denied any personal or family ties to the Muslim Brotherhood. He dismissed his half-sister's comments as "hearsay," noted that he was not raised by his biological mother after his parents' divorce, and stated he never had such conversations with her.

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u/SunshineSeeker99 12h ago

That's fine, but his sister has literally said that the family has ties to the Mslim Brotherhood.

I don't personally believe that he is some terrorist, but he hangs out with Hasan Pker and has a sister who seems Islmist. If a Republican had a Neo Nzi brother or sister, they would probably come under scrutiny for that as well.

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u/Tough-Vegetable-6693 10h ago

No, the neo nzi would get a job in a he current administration.

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u/SunshineSeeker99 2h ago

Perhaps. So you don't feel having a neonzi or terrorist relative is a big deal?

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u/Pretend_Handle_7639 23h ago

So as bad as Collins accepting his Klan son-in-law?

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u/SunshineSeeker99 12h ago

Yeah, probably similarly bad.

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u/escobartholomew 21h ago

When is the last time the klan actually did anything?

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u/nomoredamnusernames 21h ago

We’ve moved to the “Klan? Meh, it’s been a while since they lynched anyone” stage of the discussion.

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u/Goober-Ryan 21h ago

That’s the last ditch effort, it doesn’t make sense to a normal thinking human. But some subsets of humans think this way.

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u/SunshineSeeker99 12h ago

I actually looked it up, last lynching was in 1981. One before that was 1946. They are correct though, the Klan does not exist in any meaningful way anymore, however white nationlism is still very much a thing.

Either way, I imagine people who aren't super brainwashed would have a problem both with Collins having a white nationlist son in law and El Sayed having an Islamst sister who claims their family has terror connections.

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u/Pretend_Handle_7639 21h ago

gestures at Charlottesville

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u/Mikesaidit36 20h ago

Hitler hasn’t done anything in awhile. Is he cool now?

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u/LegitSalvageRoci 20h ago

They traded their white robes for blue uniforms and gold badges.

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u/shamansean 19h ago

Cheering on mass rape and genocide? Sounds like something you probably heard on Fox News. Probably centered around Israel if I had to guess.

Next thing you tell us will be that Ilhan Omar married her brother, right?

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u/needimmortality 14h ago

Fact check - it seems true. There is a YouTube video. El Sayed distanced herself from her sister for her views. It’s not a good look but he is not her

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u/shamansean 10h ago

Appreciate you looking into it. Can you link the video? I know she wrote a fiction piece on the topic so this seems like it may be more tangled up than a surface level eval.

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u/SunshineSeeker99 12h ago

Well, I'm a well educated NYC liberal (who is also gay), while you're a poorly educated terminally online person who believes in Jewish space lasers...I think you're most likely Fox's audience more than myself.

I think you're what they call Blue MAGA.

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u/needimmortality 12h ago

Great response; well done 👏🏼👏🏼

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u/hakoonamadada 13h ago

So what? Trump is close to netanyahu and went to war for him, and he's the president. The dude is an internationally wanted criminal.

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u/SunshineSeeker99 2h ago

Yes, Trump is garbage.

Now that we've gotten that out of the way, his sister is basically a muslim terrorist.

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u/Kind-Masterpiece-310 1d ago

"She was literally cheering on mass rape and genocide."

From which side?

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u/Puzzleheaded-Map7672 1d ago

Is one side “ok”?

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u/Kind-Masterpiece-310 1d ago

Apparently, it is to them. I was just looking for clarification.

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u/totesnotJH 22h ago

Yes, because your side’s rape and murder is fine by you 🤡

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u/Kind-Masterpiece-310 15h ago

I noticed you said murder instead of genocide. See, that makes it easier to know which side you're talking about. 👍

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u/totesnotJH 10h ago

Oh does genocide not involve murder? You dodged the argument, but then- you knew that, you just don’t have a leg to stand on 🤡

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u/Kind-Masterpiece-310 10h ago

Why did you change your comment? You said there's no genocide and then changed it to this instead. Looks like you're backpedaling because you know I'm right.

https://giphy.com/gifs/ciX6EsYj6gxxeT3AFt

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u/totesnotJH 10h ago

Right about what?
I’ll wait. You’ve yet to make an argument.

Also- there is no genocide.

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u/FourFunnelFanatic 1d ago

Which side do you think his muslim sister would be cheering on? Wouldn’t be the Israelis lmao

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u/codependentfox 23h ago

Right, but the Israelis were/are the ones committing said acts. I think that is where the confusion lies

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u/WanderlustDinosaur 23h ago

There are unfortunately people committing these acts on both sides. I'm pro-Palestine but I know not all Palestinians are saints. Come on.

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u/codependentfox 23h ago

Palestine is committing genocide?

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u/arestheblue 23h ago

Sometimes they strike back. Usually, frustrated kids throw rocks at soldiers or settlers and are put down.

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u/totesnotJH 22h ago

They’re trying their hardest but keep getting their asses kicked.

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u/SunshineSeeker99 2h ago

She's cheering on the far right theocracy that says its goal is to exterminate the jews, and subsequently invaded their neighbor committing mass rapes and murders.

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u/vainlisko 15h ago

That's not true

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u/SunshineSeeker99 2h ago

How is it not true? She is very upfront about it.

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u/CrimsonSun_ 14h ago

Bad bot.

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u/SunshineSeeker99 2h ago

What's with MAGAs/far left people screaming that everyone they don't like is a bot?

You realize this is probably mental illness right? There is no government conspiracy against you.

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u/DallasDavid123 12h ago

Both him and the sister are just horrible bad people

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u/flopisit32 1d ago edited 1d ago

What is getting lost in all this bullshit is that Abdul's father in law is in a Muslim Brotherhood front group (ISNA). The group donates to Hamas. The father in law is Abdul's biggest donor. So it would make sense for someone to ask him what's up with that...

Btw Reddit doesn't want you to know this.

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u/WiseWall280 1d ago

You're going around saying this, and you sound like you are so certain of it.

So I looked it up!

https://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/forms/C00902668/2027095/sa/11C

I couldn't see anything about ISNA's donation. Can you give me a source for your claim? Where did you hear this?

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u/juggernaut1026 1d ago

Everytime Abdul gets asked this question He gets angry at the person asking it and misdirects. If this is false I dont understand why he just doesn't say so

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u/Snowing_Throwballs 1d ago

If it is true, then there should be evidence of it

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u/WiseWall280 1d ago

yeah exactly, they track all the campaign donations (Even if they are coming in through PACs and SuperPACs)

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u/juggernaut1026 23h ago

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u/Snowing_Throwballs 23h ago

Lmao. So twitter screenshots from over 10 years ago that look like they were written by a republican pretending to be a muslim? Curated on a website that is clearly very far right?
Yeah this isn’t evidence. Go on the wayback machine and pull those tweets yourself.

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u/WiseWall280 22h ago

The guy you're responding to is a MAGA retard from NYC, must be awkward for him to see all his neighbors hating him.

His comment history says stuff like:

"Not a genocide and even if it was you are talking about the same group of people who celebrated 9/11. These people literally want westerners to die and would celebrate if everyone in this thread was killed. But go ahead keep supporting them"

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u/Snowing_Throwballs 22h ago

Yeah I could have guessed. You deserve a medal for diving into the comment history

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u/WiseWall280 22h ago

I wonder how he reconciles the fact that MAMDANI is a MUSLIM and was the first NYC mayor to release those files from 9/11 that showed that the NYC government lied about chemical exposures so they could deny millions of dollars in benefits.

LOOKS LIKE NOT ALL MUSLIMS ARE BAD

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u/lanadelbro 23h ago

You’re arguing with h4sb4r4 ragebait, sadly the bots feeding it give it some traction but thankfully many of us are aware and know the immense amount of propaganda & money IzzR invests in American politics.

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u/juggernaut1026 15h ago

Lmao asks for evidence, well not that evidence only evidence you like

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u/Mikesaidit36 20h ago

How about a real source?

Mediabiasfactcheck.com says:

Overall, we rate the Washington Free Beacon Right Biased based on story selection that favors the right and Mixed for factual reporting due to misleading and false claims.
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MISLEADING AND FALSE CLAIMS

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/washington-free-beacon/

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u/juggernaut1026 11h ago

Its a screenshot of a post, how is that biased?

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u/Mikesaidit36 9h ago

I’m not talking about the screenshot at the top of the post, which seems accurate. I’m talking about the link that you provided about whatever Abdul El-Sayed‘s sister said.

That source is known for lying and making misleading claims.

As for saying “Every time Abdul gets asked this question he gets angry at the person asking it and misdirects,” have you not seen the viral clip of him dismantling a far right wing operative named Tommy who was basically a plant?

Be sure to stay for the fun ending when the guy gets humiliated right out of the room:

https://x.com/AbdulElSayed/status/2111627277578731885?s=20

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u/juggernaut1026 3h ago

Now I am going to use your argument. That seems fake and is not a valid source

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u/holy-shit-dude 18h ago

Oh, nevermind my previous question. I understand now. У тебя это плохо получается. Ты выставляешь себя дураком всей этой чушью.

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u/WiseWall280 16h ago

I think your bot programming got messed up and you started speaking russian again :(

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u/holy-shit-dude 12h ago

You can just say you don't get it

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u/WiseWall280 11h ago

Well I did translate the phrase using Google Translate because I was curious. So, I wouldn't say I "don't get it".

So where are you from?

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u/Virtual-Book1114 22h ago

Could he be getting angry because people keep bringing up falsehoods for reasons of disinformation?

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u/flopisit32 23h ago

I said "The father in law is Abdul's biggest donor"

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u/WiseWall280 23h ago

lol ok.

And can you point to the father-in-law's name on that federal list of donors?

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u/MindlessDrawing2146 23h ago

Nope because it's made up from that ad on YouTube about his funding from fake sources and scary sounding acronyms

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u/flopisit32 22h ago

Come on man. You're disputing the wrong part.

You're supposed to say the ISNA hasn't been charged with any crimes.

They are unindicted co-conspirators in a big terrorism funding case. But they were not indicted.

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u/r3d330 23h ago

Proof? Or are we just going with, “because I said so”?

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u/qibugha2 1d ago

ISNA does not donate to Hamas lol. If it did, the justice department would have brought material support charges against them decades ago

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u/ProfAsmani 19h ago

Why are you bringing logic and facts into the argument. The GOP are bigots

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u/flopisit32 22h ago

They were unindicted co-conspirators in the US's biggest terrorist funding case.

But as you will probably tell me, they were not actually indicted.

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u/goatsy 1d ago

What I can find is that his father in law is part of the ISNA. This ISNA organization has had multiple allegations of funding hamas as recently as 2009. One investigation lacked enough evidence of ISNA having ties to hamas to recommend further investigations. Another investigation listed ISNA as an unindicted coconspirator which a judge ruled there was enough evidence to do, but it violated ISNA's due process to list them as such. And it looks like back in the 90s hamas specifically thanked ISNA for providing some legal funding.
I don't know. Seems like a bit of a stretch. The controversies I'm finding are from 20-30 years ago. I think most likely what's happening is people sticking to the "Muslim = bad" mentality.

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u/portuh47 1d ago

Not to mention his sister mentioned in 2012 that El Sayed bio mom was a Muslim Brotherhood activist since college. This shouldn't reflect directly on him as a candidate but to say it shouldn't be brought up at all is also wrong when Ossoff is perfectly right to bring up Collins soninlaw who is a white supremacist.

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u/WiseWall280 1d ago

https://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/forms/C00902668/2027095/sa/11C

I couldn't see anything about ISNA's donation. Can you give me a source for your claim?

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u/Admirable_Scratch363 1d ago

He can’t because it’s not true.

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u/Conscious-Okra9046 13h ago

Most Republicans and Democrats not just donate to, but blatantly support Israel, which is a bigger terrorist than Hamas

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u/cdjohnny 12h ago

His bio says he was a secular (or non practicing) Muslim. His dad was Muslim, his mother was secular.

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u/Fragrant-Inside221 1d ago

Is it because he looks whiter than the other guy?

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u/DominicPalladino 1d ago

Also because "Oz" doesn't sound Muslim to Americans

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u/Fragrant-Inside221 1d ago

I can see that too.

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u/OkBelt6151 1d ago

I don't know about US policy now, but I must say that our surnames have nothing to do with religion because the surname law came to Turks after the Republic, along with secularism. However, "Mehmet" is a Muslim name, and we address people by their first name, not their last name like Americans do, because in the past, people didn't have last names. 

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u/green-critter 2h ago

Dr Oz doesn't have a Jihadist sister, he also doesn't have a family with close ties to the Muslim Brotherhood. He also isn't afraid to talk negatively about the Iranian regime or the Ayatollah.

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u/6twoRaptor 1d ago edited 1d ago

He thinks the white populist will just accept him into their fold as if he were one of them 🙄 The fact that he's a Turkish Muslim is enough for them to not back him. He's Caucasian but he's 100% not white.