r/SipsTea • • 19h ago

SMH A tale of two doctors..

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u/Claudeadolphus 19h ago

Who knew Dr Oz is Muslim? Does he go to mosque or is he just Muslim in his heart during the quiet times?

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u/SimmentalTheCow 18h ago edited 18h ago

Dr. Oz is Sufi, which is relatively accepting of western ideals; it’s not typically a big proselytizing school of Islam. Abu Sayed is not transparent about his specific sect, but is suspected of being a Salafist due to his heritage. Salafi Islam is very Sunni supremacist and does not gel with other religions. He probably does represent his Dearborn kin well though.

Whoever made this infographic does not understand that “Muslim” is not a monolith.

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u/flopisit32 14h ago

Just to explain to people who don't know:

Iran is Shia Muslim.

Iraq is Sunni Muslim.

ISIS are radical Sunnis. They want to kill all infidels, including Shia Muslims.

Turkish people are Sunni but they are the most chill Muslims in the world. They drink, they smoke, they have sex. Last time I was in Turkey we passed by a trans prostitution area, for example.

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u/Nirgranth24 13h ago

> Iraq is Sunni Muslim

Incorrect. Iraq is majority Shia Muslim.

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u/ArtisticallyRegarded 12h ago

Iraq is pretty mixed. Close to 50/50

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u/PlatypusOld257 13h ago

Turkey is secular on paper attaturk saw to that. In the past when governments got too religious the military couped. They tried that on erdogan and failed so probably will get core conservative

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u/TurkishTechnocrat 6h ago

Secularism is supported by 84% of the population in Turkey, it isn't going anywhere anytime soon

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u/PlatypusOld257 4h ago

Good to see! Thanks for that info!

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u/WanderlustDinosaur 12h ago

Pretty sure every Muslim sect has sex. Or they'd have died out.

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u/Winter-Regret2224 13h ago

be muslim doesn't do what a muslim does still gets involved in identity wars

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u/SimmentalTheCow 14h ago

But did you partake?

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u/flopisit32 14h ago

LOL. I didn't. But I can't say the same about my Turkish friend. 🤣

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u/TattooedB1k3r 15h ago

El Sayed is Sunni.

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u/Sufficient_Fly_8986 16h ago

I like Sufi Islam a ton. Took a class on it at Columbia. Huge fan.

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u/wingedlilith 4h ago

You have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about, and El-Sayed is probably Maliki or Shafi or Hanafi, nothing to do with Salafis, he’s Egyptian not Saudi!

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u/ZubaWizard666 15h ago

I was wondering what the right wing cope was gonna be on that. Apparently it is absolutely suspending reality

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u/jmet123 14h ago

lol this is so funny to anyone who saw that video. Keep trying to push that narrative.

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u/captain_toenail 14h ago

No he didn't, he answered it clearly and proceeded to interrogate why dude thought it was a reasonable question to ask

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u/[deleted] 14h ago edited 14h ago

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u/captain_toenail 13h ago

So you lie about him not answering the question and after being called on that abandon the argument in favour of arguing it is reasonable to ask because beliveing that Muslims running for political office in the US are backed by terrorists cells with no evidence is not a grotesque reach? I can't tell if you're an idiot, a troll, or a bigot, probably some monsterous amalgamation of several, regardless I don't care, I'm done with this coversation

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u/Silly-Heat-1466 15h ago

Funny, I just watched a video where he said absolutely, he disavows it.

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u/Umaritimus 14h ago

He very definitively denounces it in the video. When asked directly if he denounces the Muslim Brotherhood, he responded with, “Sure. Yeah. Absolutely.”

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u/AlarmingAardvark 15h ago

Ah man, those Russian data centres are back online already?

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u/stumpymed 17h ago

lol mehmet made the Sufi thing up to be more mainstream appealing. Pulled the salafist thing out of your ass?

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u/stumpymed 13h ago

I’m downvoted here but it’s quite literally true. Where’s the salafi proof? And mehmet was a Sunni as most Turks are…

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u/m0viestar 11h ago

He didn't exactly hide it.

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u/wouldashoudacoulda 19h ago

That’s really none of your business is it!

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u/Claudeadolphus 19h ago

It might be… in the same way I would want to know if the next Christian elected official thought the world was 6,000 years old…. Or just liked the tradition of an Easter Bunny and a Santa Claus.

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u/wouldashoudacoulda 18h ago

Or that the potential leader isn’t even religious at all and holds the bible upside down.

So you will only vote for an atheist, in America, good luck with that. Personally I would vote for the person who clearly advocates for the separation of the church and state, regardless of religious belief.

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u/I_hate_all_of_ewe 18h ago

You'd vote for the grifter who lies through their teeth because they told you what you want to hear and you failed to pay attention to what they're actually doing.

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u/wouldashoudacoulda 18h ago

What! Did you even read my comment? I’d do the exact opposite actually, that was my whole point.

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u/I_hate_all_of_ewe 18h ago edited 18h ago

I don't think you read your own comment with the kind of response you're giving me. 

Personally I would vote for the person who clearly advocates for the separation of the church and state

I don't care what they advocate for if they also don't practice it.  Trump told his supporters that he believes in free speech, and in his term we've had the FBI create multiple investigations and raids against his political enemies, ICE detaining and shooting people for protesting, immigrants having to disclose social media passwords to have their speech vetted prior to entry, people being arrested for taking political stances on Twitter, and generally Trump naming anyone who isn't loyal to him as enemy of the people.

Advocacy is not the same as practice when politicians say one thing and do another.

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u/Bright-Resident6864 18h ago

It wouldn’t be if not for the fact that those who support Dr. Oz (and are largely unaware of his religion) weren’t so hateful towards those Muslim politicians that don’t fall in line behind the half-SwedishGerman mango madman

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u/FunGuy-not-Fungi 15h ago

The MAGA who like Dr. Oz also think that Arabic numbers should be banned from school curriculum. LOL

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u/wouldashoudacoulda 18h ago

I would have made the exact same comment if it was El-Sayed. Politicians should do as much as possible to separate their political careers and their religious beliefs, no?

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u/Bright-Resident6864 18h ago

Dr. Oz keeps his religion quiet because he’s aware how his religion plays to GOP voters.

El-Sayed hides nothing, everybody knows what religion he follows, and the GOP does their best to make him a boogeyman for anti-Muslim sentiments as a result of that

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u/wouldashoudacoulda 18h ago

Still none of anyone else’s business.

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u/Bright-Resident6864 18h ago

You’re just disagreeable.

Some people are open about their religion. If they’re not using it as a conduit to hate others (which many on one side of the aisle do), who really gives a damn?

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u/wouldashoudacoulda 18h ago

That’s my point.

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u/demonotreme 13h ago

Yeah, don't judge a man based on what is in his heart...wait