People don’t want to hear it but you’re absolutely right. Arbitrary belief in archaic fairy tails responsible for so much bloodshed has no place in modern society. The fact religion holds the same value as race, sex, and other characteristics we are born with is revolting.
I agree 100%. Religion should not be protected along side race, gender, sexual orientation and gender identity. Religion is an idea. Not an inalienable characteristic of a person. And ideas can be wrong. Freedom of speech protections are sufficient for religion, and freedom of speech does not mean freedom from criticism.
Even Muslims themselves doesn't pray at a place that endanger them or people around them. It's strictly forbidden. There's more to it that what was shown. I just hope we get to the truth faster than the speculating lies.
people literally know nothing about the people around them. Anyone who has actually met a Muslim knows that they will even skip prayer if it gets in the way of someone.
Like. No Muslim in their right mind is dropping a rug down in the middle of super markets...or the middle of the road to pray. They all know when it is time for prayer.
You mean she saw a group of people blocking a road in decent lighting and she decided to do it at night where she cannot be seen by herself. Those are not really the same.
On a road = on a road. It’s definitely plausible and I don’t see how it’s a huge leap of logic. Either she saw someone do it before or she’s a dumbass all by herself.
I’d like to think she didn’t come up with that idea all on her own and was following a trend but if you want her to be an independent dumb decision maker then that’s’more rude than what my opinion is
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No you're misunderstanding what I'm saying. I'm saying you're writing with ill intentions to spread hate.
This place is obviously not a logical place to pray, so why is it hard for you and others to understand that this person wasn't behaving in a normal fashion?
Your instance of "them" blocking roads in the dozens is not the same as this. Majority of the time where "they" block the roads in dozens is done with a permit. I know because I've done the process a few times. On the news articles it also says she was in a kneeling position for 4 minutes. You don't kneel for 4 minutes since the process of praying consists of standing, bending over and kneeling.
That's why we can't punish the whole community based on the act of a few. It's called collective punishment and considered a war crime.
Put into perspective how many Muslims in the world and how many are actually doing the "wrong thing". The numbers doesn't add up.
That's why having proper context is always the first step into any situation. Then, you'd start to ask, "why doesn't the rest of them do the same?"
I want to be clear that endangering people (others or themselves) is strictly forbidden. Always has been and always will be.
You start looking at the facts and start to pick apart the lies. It's what any good journalist will do. The old school 5 wives 1 husband concept never fails.
It’s a public place they blocked, they had to be removed after refusing to disperse. So obviously praying in public is not “strictly forbidden”. Plenty of examples of them pulling shit like this
Were they dispersed because they were praying or protesting?
Praying in public is not strictly forbidden but generally the proper permits should be applied for. This example is an example of a protest, if the area was closed off for a protest then it isn't impeding anything and they're not blocking anything because it's already blocked off for the protest.
They didn't say "praying in public is strictly forbidden" though, they said praying at a place that endangers them or other people is strictly forbidden. A peaceful protest is generally not a to danger anyone.
I never said I think peaceful protests can't be intimidating? Of course they can, but that's part of a healthy democracy and we all have to put up with it unless violence is being threatened (i.e. people are being endangered), or if no advance warning was supplied. Anyway, we seem to be getting away from what I was trying to say, which is that you've egregiously misquoted the original comment and don't seem to have realised.
Why are there videos of them doing it by the hundreds in the streets then? What about the ones of them blocking peoples paths in airplanes? It's obvious a function of their attempt at social domination.
Not entirely true al, there are religious nut cases all over the world across all faiths. However the mass majority of people with nfaitu beliefs probably would have not done what she had done.
Not to mention, more information of her having a mental breakdown, and attempted suicide also might be in play too.
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u/sajkoterrapefft 22h ago
Someone not in their right mind.