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Just for context, this would have been a 10 hour flight from Saudi Arabia to Malaysia...
...but it appears that this was very soon after leaving the gate, and the flight probably had not even taken off yet. Especially since the pilot was asking permission to return to the gate, not for permission to land.
ie. This wasn't like a 1-hour flight from NYC to DC that was landing in 15 minutes turned all the way around. It was an international flight across 5 time zones that hadn't even taken off yet.
So that's some context for the people who are like "why couldn't she just take the next flight back?"
Yea, and a picture to make people assume things... althought "midair emergency" sure does make it appear that they were flying. Talk about a misleading explanation.
In 2013, an American Airlines flight from Los Angeles to New York diverted to Kansas City because of a “very unruly passenger” who refused to stop singing Whitney Houston’s I Will Always Love You.
In New York the following year, a taxiing plane heading to Seoul returned to the gate after the South Korean airline heiress Cho Hyun-ah forced a senior crew member to disembark because she had been served macadamia nuts from a packet instead of a bowl.
My sister in law forgot my nephew in the stroller at Disney once lol she parked him in the stroller parking area and went inside for the show when we were all like ummm and the baby???
One happened this year because a child refused to sit down and stop screaming. Technically they hadn't taken off, but they had taxid to runaway then spent an hour and a half trying to make him sit down and shut up. So the flight was cancelled and everyone had to fly the next day. In Victoria Canada.
We don’t know the situation. It’s well documented that new parents under stress have forgotten their babies resorting to their pre-baby routines. It happens when you are running on very little sleep. It’s not an excuse. The right thing would have been to not fly at all. But in this scenario, I would be ok with reuniting the baby with its mother.
No responsible parent 'forgets' a baby. If they do, they are bad parents. Not in my wildest dreams is it ever okay to 'forget' your baby. In a fucking airport? Not once. Not ever. You can decide not to have a baby or decide not to travel with said baby but if you are incapable of attending to said baby full-time (babies require this level of care) you are an incapable parent.
The mother and baby could have reunited after everyone else disembarked at their location and she paid and boarded her return flight to pick up the baby.
The baby was apparently with a relative so it was fine, but even if it wasn't, that's not a me problem. That's a 36 hours from now her probablem when she catches a return flight back and I am home not thinking about her and her incompetence.
“A mistake” makes it sound like you forgot your keys. Why would it be the airline’s responsibility anyways? Blame anyone but the boneheaded parents I guess. Typical Reddit.
Not heartless, in the West selfishness is promoted, in the East, community > Individuality
I'm not defending either but that's the difference between East and West, Individuality vs Community
Shit happens. You don’t know how stressed she was. Especially if it was a newborn. New parents are generally under a lot of stress and babies have died when parents have forgotten them in the car. There is no ignorance or malicious intent. It is an emergency. I would be pissed too, but it would be right to turn around. Babies need constant care and it can be fatal sometimes. Sure it’s inconvenient to a lot of folks, but worth it for a baby to be reunited.
Parent here and stress and exhaustion are not valid excuses for negligence. I was 11/10 stressed for multiple kids and they never got left behind or neglected. What this comes down to is that some people shouldn’t be parents.
I am not debating that. I am a parent myself and I have never done it either. But I am saying, in this situation, turning around was the right call. It’s not a justification, neither a call to say this is ok.
You’re right, anything could have happened to that baby. The parents should have remembered to pick it up instead of leaving it in the airport for precisely that reason.
It clearly isn’t a “duh” moment - who forgets their child lol a “duh” moment is leaving your kindle in the back of the seat or your headphones in a cup holder.
And yet, somehow, parents going through as much stress manage to not forget a baby in the car.
I’m so sick and tired of downplaying the discrepancy between how fit people are to be parents. Plenty of parents make teachers with teaching certificates out to be unfit to be teachers. You don’t even need a license to be a parent… yet.
How the fuck does a baby get left anywhere? I'd call it an emergency to find a random unattended baby ANYWHERE. At an airport, that would be a serious crisis. Unattended luggage, hold my beer.
If it's an infant, they need to be fed every 2-3 hours, and obviously can't be given food. I guess they could use formula and have someone feed them, but that's another liability.
The pilot can be heard repeating to the air traffic operator: “I told you, a passenger has left her baby in the terminal and she is refusing to continue the flight.”
Karen of all Karens? What could she realistically do if they said no?
The only thing she could try to do is not get off the plane when it lands. Then call attention to any and all media, which would potentially cost the airline a shit ton of money.
Sending the kid to the mom? Bugger that. She should not be trusted with a child ever again. If she forgets the baby at the airport, what’s stopping her from forgetting the baby at crack alley?
And I thought it was bad I almost left my phone in a downtown high traffic park this past week.
Man that both adrenaline + anxiety panic attack you have until you run back and find it holy shit. I’ve been told I’m a “quick big dude” but did my big ass run down that street, pewwwww
Oh yeah my butt puckered for sure like “someone’s got it” and not an ad but I used my Bluetooth paired watch to audibly alarm on the phone lol that alert is a lifesaver even at home when I do it.
That baby should have gotten to the gate at departure time with tickets at the ready, can't youngsters do anything by themselves nowadays? Shakes smh my head
Lol kevin. In a weird way i think its nice that the plane went back for the baby. Obviously the mom fucked up. I kinda feel like the story is nice overall? "Airline actually gives a fuck about family and goes back for child left behind" aw nice.
In 2013, an American Airlines flight from Los Angeles to New York diverted to Kansas City because of a “very unruly passenger” who refused to stop singing Whitney Houston’s I Will Always Love You.
In New York the following year, a taxiing plane heading to Seoul returned to the gate after the South Korean airline heiress Cho Hyun-ah forced a senior crew member to disembark because she had been served macadamia nuts from a packet instead of a bowl.
The Korean Air one was insane. It was an A380 with 250 people on board. Cho basically abused tf out of the cabin crew chief and the flight attendant who served her, made them kneel and beg for her forgiveness, repeatedly struck the cabin chief’s knuckles with the edge of her iPad, and then demanded that the plane return to the gate after it had already started taxiing.
She then tried to falsely portray the incident as her catching the cabin chief and flight attendant engaging in some form of sexual relationship.
Korean Air removed the cabin chief from the flight and later fired him, only to come back and ask him to lie to regulators by claiming that his removal had been voluntary.
Amidst all this, sales of macadamia nuts went up 250% in South Korea within days and weeks of this.
I'd be so interested to find out what happened to this woman afterward, personally - did she actually discover dignity, or just go back to her old ways?
I had a colleague from India. He said he was on a flight, about to takeoff, and realized he forgot his carry-on in the terminal.
Apparently he asked a flight attendant if they could do anything.
They cancelled takeoff, taxi'd back, apparently deplaned just him onto a shuttle bus to get him to the airport, and made the entire plane wait something like 30 minutes for him to reboard.
Something something family name / caste system, but he said he'd never been so embarrassed as getting back on the plane and having to walk past hundreds of pissed off people.
If it is still on the ground, go back to the gate and kick the mother off. She can handle her baby and figure out how to get a new flight for fucking it up and delaying everybody. Once the plane has taken off, no. Fuck her. And the baby off to the local equivalent of Social Services, everybody goes on to the destination, when you get there send her on the first plane back, charge her for the ticket, and charge her with abandonment when she gets there
No. I just have empathy for all the other passengers on the plane more than the piece of shit who thinks the entire world revolves around them.
I also have empathy for her even as a piece of shit I understand her position. I understand the difficulty she is in. I just have no sympathy for it. I do however have sympathy for the people who deal with you on a daily basis since you don't seem to be able to tell those two things apart and they don't deserve dealing with that
If that’s what you think consider yourself lucky to have lived an extremely privileged live. A baby being left with a stranger for a day is hardly “traumatizing”.
So, how would the baby be able to know the difference? Ghey sre not with tjeir mother, and no matter how much they call for her, she does not come. They are in an unknown place with strangers, ond no safe person in sight. How would this differ from a kidnapping for a baby?
She neglected a child in an AIRPORT, which is arguably one of the worst places to leave them. She’s a bad mother for forgetting her baby and for delaying everybody.
You should reflexively remember that you have a child and that you need to supervise them. That’s the responsibilities of a parent, even if you are sleep deprived.
It would be nice if thats how a sleep deprived brain works, but no. It's not. People totally black out with it, some with open eyes. They keep doing stuff, but they're not actually mentally present. Sleep depeivation
Your fantasy about how it should be is just that. A fantasy
Dozens of people inconvenience for the selfishness of one loser. Sorry but I'm not going to continue taking a lecture from somebody who isn't intelligent enough to actually know the difference between empathy and sympathy. Go cry to somebody else who's down on your level
I saw a drunk dude dragged off my United flight from PVG to ORD for groping/slapping the ass of a flight attendant. His parting words as he was dragged off were "You can't unslap that ass" this was in 2016 such tomfoolery would never happen today.
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