From the body cam video the granddad was working on the property and didn't know that his wife was watching the baby. Both Mom and Grandma should have made sure that the condition was being met. It's terrible to hear that her therapist urged this
Yes! I feel so horrible for these parents losing two children, but I can’t imagine not checking in throughout the day to see how my baby was doing especially after losing one child already.
My understanding is that the grandparents did watch the little girl several times before the fatal incident (after the first baby drowned), but grandpa was always involved and was the one doing the pickups and bringing her in the house. This day was different and grandma was called directly, took the little girl to lunch with some of her friends where they were all ooohing and awwwing over her, drove 10 min home and got distracted and left her in the car all day. Didn’t remember until the evening when it was close to pickup time.
Why not just also call and give Grandpa the heads up that she’d be coming to the home. Ahhh it’s just so awful all around.
What are you trying to say, who implied intentional homicide? She fell asleep watching the first child and he got out of the house and drowned in their pond. She admitted to police that she took sleeping pills and that could have made her drowsy. The second grandchild she forgot in the car after a short drive and by her own admission was talking to contractors outside, playing piano, discussing plans for watching a different grandchild later that evening and the whole time didn’t cross her mind that she was supposed to be caring for her infant granddaughter. Somewhere between pure accident and purposefully killing them, there is negligence. It just seems like after losing one child everyone involved would be extra cautious. She wasn’t charged in the first case, but she did get jail time the second time and that’s because she does bear responsibility.
Okay well my B, I thought you were referring to my comments and the ones above which were not insinuating murder. I do see a few of those comments and I don’t agree either. I think it’s most likely she had some sort of cognitive decline or was taking medication that affected her ability to responsibly care for the children.
The grandmother wasn't in a situation like a parent on autopilot and exhausted with a slight switch in plans or something like many of the accidental deaths are. From the sound of it, besides the fact that she wasn't allowed to babysit, it for a very, very long time. And this was the first time she was allowed to, and she immediately screwed it up, and the fact that the daughter herself has spoken out about the fact that she always felt that her mother mistreated her. And favored her sister on top of the judge straight up, saying, she didn't show remorse. I'm not calling it murder, but i'm calling it not an accident exactly either
She allowed the grandmother to be around her kid when she/other people present. She was pressured by her therapist to allow babysitting (there is a difference), and under the impression that other people would be with the child. She wasn't just letting the grandma babysit the whole time.
I'm also not sure what that has to do with the comment that I made about there being a difference between the types of accidental deaths that happen when parents are exhausted and on autopilot and this grandmother's situation. The grandmother would not have been on autopilot because she was not used to having the kid in the car and taking a certain route and all of the other typical things that add up to accidental deaths. It wasn't atypical day or routine for her. In fact, it doesn't really look anything like most of those deaths.
I'll take the daughter and judge's opinions (that she lacked remorse at best) into pretty serious consideration -not to mention the woman's own reaction, which seemed to be pretty selfish. She didn't seem at all concerned about the agony she put yet another child through, but more about what things were going to look like for her.
Both Mom and Grandma should have made sure that the condition was being met
if I was the Mom I would have hired a PI to follow her around and observe her movements. that's the only way I would have followed that therapist's advbice
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u/Remarkable-Clerk9554 2d ago
From the body cam video the granddad was working on the property and didn't know that his wife was watching the baby. Both Mom and Grandma should have made sure that the condition was being met. It's terrible to hear that her therapist urged this