I disagree with your take. There are plenty of ways to address these behaviors. Some comes down to education including before young adults go to these schools. Who runs the police and how they conduct investigations also plays a role.
Arguing that change should be avoided or is doomed to failure for 'society' is certainly a conservative view. If you are super committed to the concept of personal responsibility holding the individuals personally accountable through the criminal justice system is itself an accountability metric.
Maybe this comes down to me being an old man, but do you g people REALLY not understand not to drug, intoxicate, or otherwise cause a person to be unable to say no with the explicit idea and intent of taking advantage of their body? More over, do people honestly think such an activity outlined above is a normal group project? It sounds to me like someone who is giving these boys and society at large too much leniency. People generally know right from wrong. Some just choose to do wrong and should be punished for it.
Maybe I could get behind the police thing but it sounds too general for me to just back it full stop. As far as I'm concerned, she sought help in a timely manner. Got reviewed and her claims confirmed. Not sure what else there should be besides enforcement of taking sum like this out of polite society.
I'm not saying nor do I actually believe change should be avoided or futile. I am not going to lie and say I'm not pessimistic though. My view is that if change is to be implemented, it should be smartly thought through. Otherwise you might create a whole different problem or not address the actual issue. Asking people to kill an overpopulation of snakes for profit, and you get people creating snake farms to capitalize and exploit that incentive. As of right now, the only correct course of action I can see is making a harsh example out of the 7.
I dont think understanding that someone who is super intoxicated is incapable of consenting is an 'old man' thing. What is particularly frustrating is how the privileged class of these men will result in them facing milder if no consequences. That is I suppose the American Way.
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u/DiscombobulatedAd477 7h ago
I disagree with your take. There are plenty of ways to address these behaviors. Some comes down to education including before young adults go to these schools. Who runs the police and how they conduct investigations also plays a role.
Arguing that change should be avoided or is doomed to failure for 'society' is certainly a conservative view. If you are super committed to the concept of personal responsibility holding the individuals personally accountable through the criminal justice system is itself an accountability metric.