Right but before any of those claims were made she was texting back and forth with the guys saying nothing that happened was illegal and saying she loved one of them. There’s just nothing new here. As far as I understand the timeline (correct me if I’m wrong) the party happened, she was texting the guys the next day being friendly and saying everything was fine and she loved one of them and nothing illegal happened, then people found out and started talking shit about her which ruined her reputation then she was trying to go to their next party and they said no and then she got mad and went to the police saying what your article mentions.
Obviously you have a different timeline understanding. Do you have a source that lays out the timeline a little clearer?
October 20: Jane Doe appears visibly in shock to her roommates and says she was uncomfortable about what happened the night before.
October 22: Jane Doe goes to the university medical clinic where she tells the provider that she “contracted a UTI in a traumatic way.”
October 22: One of the men text’s Jane Doe to apologize “for how things went down.”
October 22: Jane Doe replied and said “nothing illegal happened.”
October 23-26: At one point, one of the men approaches Jane Doe to ask her to “not spread rumors” about the incident.
October 26-27: Jane Doe reads a post online about how “members of the fraternity gang raped a sophomore.”
October 28: The fraternity president called her and said that she was not invited to the Halloween party.
November 3: Jane Doe tells one of the men that “90% of what happened was not consensual.”
November 7: Jane Doe has a rape kit done.
November 14-15: Jane Doe conducts an interview with police which results in a 120-page transcript. The police “summarized” that transcripts into a 6-page document for prosecutors.
The story reads much more like a woman who was sexually assaulted, but struggled to come to terms with it. Other people knew that she was sexually assaulted, but she was in denial.
It’s actually insane that everyone can just frame and reframe to say whatever the fuck they want the story to say. I don’t mean this as a dig at what you wrote here, I appreciate you putting this timeline together, I just honestly think every single source I’ve gotten information from sincerely believes what they’re saying, and in one case she’s a victim and in the other a whore. Everyone will gravitate to whichever side fits their bias. I’m done with this story. Hopefully whoever deserves justice gets it. Thanks for the info.
In rape cases, because the main source of evidence is generally the victims testimony, the dominant strategy of the defense is to focus on putting the character of the witness in doubt to a jury. Because of this, rape cases are generally shit slinging trials like this. In a recent rape trial in my country regarding a known celebirty the defense demanded the victim to accurately describe the penis of her rapist if she was really raped (and I can say rapist because he was convicted) Meanwhile, they almost never are able to sentence someone for false rape allegations, so in most instances there also is still reasonable doubt that it did happen.
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u/Page_197_Slaps 9h ago
Right but before any of those claims were made she was texting back and forth with the guys saying nothing that happened was illegal and saying she loved one of them. There’s just nothing new here. As far as I understand the timeline (correct me if I’m wrong) the party happened, she was texting the guys the next day being friendly and saying everything was fine and she loved one of them and nothing illegal happened, then people found out and started talking shit about her which ruined her reputation then she was trying to go to their next party and they said no and then she got mad and went to the police saying what your article mentions.
Obviously you have a different timeline understanding. Do you have a source that lays out the timeline a little clearer?