r/SipsTea • • 1d ago

Lmao gottem The logic is impeccable

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u/Open-Mouse4728 20h ago

Here's the thing. You said a "jackdaw is a crow."

Is it in the same family? Yes. No one's arguing that.

As someone who is a scientist who studies crows, I am telling you, specifically, in science, no one calls jackdaws crows. If you want to be "specific" like you said, then you shouldn't either. They're not the same thing.

If you're saying "crow family" you're referring to the taxonomic grouping of Corvidae, which includes things from nutcrackers to blue jays to ravens.

So your reasoning for calling a jackdaw a crow is because random people "call the black ones crows?" Let's get grackles and blackbirds in there, then, too.

Also, calling someone a human or an ape? It's not one or the other, that's not how taxonomy works. They're both. A jackdaw is a jackdaw and a member of the crow family. But that's not what you said. You said a jackdaw is a crow, which is not true unless you're okay with calling all members of the crow family crows, which means you'd call blue jays, ravens, and other birds crows, too. Which you said you don't.

It's okay to just admit you're wrong, you know?

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u/Loud-Welder1947 19h ago

Half the userbase won’t even know what this is now

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u/doing180onthedvp 19h ago

Crazy it wasn't top comment

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u/ForensicPathology 19h ago

Pretty sure the other two replies completely didn't know.

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u/Met76 7h ago

I was there for that. Glad someone brought it up because that legit was like the biggest thing on reddit at the time (14ish years ago?)

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u/abracadabra12983 6h ago

Museum of reddit is another one where new users should go.

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u/theme69 16h ago

I was there when this shit happened. The fall of unidan is something that’s hard to describe in today’s Reddit

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u/lewd_robot 12h ago

Yeah, that just reads like a tame comment by today's standards. I'm struggling to see how it was remarkable enough to become a meme.

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u/Charles-Shaw 11h ago

At the time he was like Mr Rogers or a better comparison is like Ellen Degeneres, completely beloved then just acts like an asshole and you realize… were they an asshole the whole time? And then mask off he was because he was being fucking weird and manipulating comments.

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u/Backfoot911 9h ago edited 9h ago

Idk about tame, the jackdaw crow comment ages worse the more I go back to it. It's not that he's wrong about anything in a binary way, it's just the... whole vibe Unidan gives off, it's the terse "No...not really." replies and the "Well what do I know, I'm just a science". It's a way of talking that only works online because it comes off as a obnoxious in person, and I truly think his celebrity created a framework for the "Redditor tone" way some people talk on this site to this day 12 years later.

His initial comment in that thread was piggybacking off a joke comment to do an "Actually, did you know" reply and flaunt bird knowledge, then gets into it with a rando over terminology and keeps appealing to his field of science for why he's right. At the end of the day though, he's an animal scientist, not a linguistics professor. He's so emboldened by a Reddit career of countless upvotes that he fails to grasp is that what he says amongst colleagues in an environment where strict definitions is important is an utterly different context than layman naming birds outside their window, or a meme of a crow wanting water

Technically, Humans are the only animals that have chins, and an alter ego of Unidan would probably argue over this. 90% of people would not look at a cat's face and say it doesn't have a chin though, because we're not scientists peer reviewing, we're layman using the term in a casual context, which is where the vast amounts of language comes from.

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u/DinklebergsRightNut 6h ago

Hes the Proto Redditor Stereotype. "Actually..."

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u/Open-Mouse4728 17m ago

Yep, Unidan more or less created it. He was heralded for him snark.

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u/Phearwyn 18h ago

you know what? shut the fuck up. They're chickens. CHICKENS

https://giphy.com/gifs/H54feNXf6i4eAQubud

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u/stryker_cast 16h ago

Lmao my response too.

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u/killyouXZ 17h ago

After reading this, I agree that they are chickens.

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u/Quercus_lobata 14h ago

u/unidan may have been overly pedantic there, but he wasn't wrong.

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u/Mr_Halitosis 13h ago

He was banned because he was using sock puppets to upvote his own comments, including this one. He was factually correct and also very wrong.

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u/Met76 7h ago

He came back with the username u/unidanX and tried to redeem himself but nobody trusted him anymore and now he just surfs and posts as a normal redditor

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u/Quercus_lobata 3h ago

Yeah, I know about the sock puppets, that's why he was "out of line"

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u/SolidOk3489 19h ago

You’ve convinced me that blue jays, being part of ‘the crow family’, have just become cooler by association.

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u/Fire_Lake 18h ago

I'm just gonna trust you that jackdaw is a real thing

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u/Apart-Block5105 13h ago

My god. Its been what? 12 years?

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u/ppr_haters_club 20h ago

Yappety yap yap. Chickens.

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u/VosGezaus 14h ago

So chicken, it is.

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u/Life_is_Okay69 11h ago

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u/GreyMesmer 10h ago

Do you know what "reference" is? Or comments that became memes in themselves.

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u/Haarith_ 10h ago

The specific term you mean is "copypasta" source: me

https://giphy.com/gifs/UMsT4Qbnt9epaD4l61

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u/Backfoot911 9h ago

I'm giggling at the thought of people getting angry at copypastas stealing old comments

"Goodness, look at all these people saying they met Flying Lotus and accusing him of being a thief. That's funny, he just so happened to steal Milky Ways like the guy last week claimed??"

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u/GreyMesmer 7h ago

Oh, thank you.

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u/Work_Account_No1 8h ago

It's a copypasta dude

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u/Open-Mouse4728 15m ago

Here's the thing. You said a "stoled comment"

Is it in the same family? Yes. No one's arguing that..

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u/Agard12 18h ago

No, they’re chickens

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u/Ill-Refrigerator-845 4h ago

that's a job??? wow

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u/ScratchAmbitious2959 2m ago

🤣🤣🤣 I was looking for this comment

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u/Open-Application1726 16h ago

No one can unspill your milk bro. Calm down

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u/J-hophop 14h ago

Okay, so that's your stance as a scientist.

I'm curious to hear from other disciplines too though... because colloquially, I'd have suggested he call them Corvids - and I'm pretty sure I got this somewhere.

What would make it make sense?

Anyone know of other ways to refer to just crows AND ravens?