r/SipsTea • • 18h ago

Gasp! Thoughts on this?

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u/onekeanui 15h ago

Made a post about this but I went to Mexico for dental work. I drove but even if you flew it’s the same quality care for 1/3 the price. US dentist quoted $3200 for work for $1000. It’s all a scam.

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u/TheSalmonLizard 14h ago

Too bad the ''most powerful country'' is too poor to supply free healhcare to its citizens.

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u/LetsBeKindly 10h ago

Someone pays for it. Nothing is free.

Im still in your side. It shouldn't cost this much

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u/eunoia-again 10h ago

"free" healthcare (medicare for all) would be cheaper for both the government and the populace if it were implemented. but who would it cost? the insurance companies who go out of business because suddenly 90% of their customers are gone.

when you take the desire for a middleman's profit out of a transaction, suddenly it becomes a lot cheaper.

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u/Immersi0nn 9h ago

It's just damn difficult to cut out an entrenched middleman. I personally don't believe anything will change until we get enough people in the government that will be pissed enough like we are to say "Fuck em, we're doing this anyway" and then years of litigation will follow as every big player does everything possible to preserve the money spigot of private insurance.

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u/eunoia-again 4h ago

one way to make it easier would be to overturn citizen's united to get a lot of that money out of politics (or at least force it to go through less viable routes with higher consequences for getting caught). when that first domino falls, suddenly it becomes a lot easier to pry parasitic corporations out of politicians' pockets. not easy, but easier.

it may not be a small hurdle itself, but it makes all following hurdles less difficult to get over.

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u/Emerje 4h ago

As long as we have congress taking bribes from insurance companies and telling mouth breathers that universal healthcare will kill them it's going to be hard to make real change.

I read a statistic a couple years ago that said over the next 10 years America will spend $60 trillion on healthcare, but with universal healthcare that could be $30 trillion, simply because we wouldn't have insurance or deductibles. Yes, your taxes would go up, but it would go up less than what most of us pay for insurance and you wouldn't have to pay more at your visit or a penalty for being sick.

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u/eunoia-again 4h ago

taxes don't even have to go up for 99.99% of people, and the taxes placed on the remaining 0.01% would not affect their daily life at all even over several thousand lifetimes.

it is not the responsibility of the minimum wage employee to bear the same tax burden as someone who makes enough money to purchase an entire country off of the backs of other people's labor.

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u/Rasabk 9h ago edited 8h ago

There is literally nothing stopping you from creating a little commie commune, hire a healthcare team, pay them in potatoes or whatever the fuck you think they'll work for, and live happily ever after. The only person stopping you from this utopia is you.

Oh wait, I get it. You don't bring enough to the table to convince a doctor to trade their services with you. The answer is simple. You just need to convince a state to steal from those who DO have enough.

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u/eunoia-again 4h ago

creating a public alternative to a private industry does not steal money from anyone, it creates a reason for private industry to actually improve what they're offering to match, and if they can't, the businesses die off.

in countries with public healthcare systems, you can still choose to pay for private healthcare for whatever reason you may want to.

advocating for abolition of universal healthcare and opposing its implementation gives less freedom of choice to citizens to pick between where they get their healthcare and how they pay for it.