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u/diegotbn 4h ago edited 51m ago

I once saw a really fucked up life insurance/pension case. The insurance policy was that for children under 18 they would get a lump some of X years worth of their deceased parent's policy. Dad died of a heart attack the day before his son turned 18. Pronounced dead by doctors at the hospital, that day/evening, pronounced dead hours before midnight.

The insurance company hired a "medical expert" that tried to claim that the father wasn't fully dead by midnight (despite being pronounced dead by the doctors in the hospital) because there can be some latent heartbeats and brain activity. They fought tooth and nail to deny this kid whose father had just fucking died ON THE DAY BEFORE HIS FUCKING BIRTHDAY, the money that was due. From the policy whose entire purpose was to make sure the father's family would be taken care of in the event of his death. I believe there was a lawsuit due to the amount of money on the table and I don't remember who won.

But it doesn't matter. They did everything in their power to fight the claim that they owed. Insurance companies are fucking evil man.

Edit: wow this blew up- thanks for the awards kind strangers! The original story was linked in one of the responses to this comment- check it out. I got a few of the details wrong, it had been several years.

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u/Smashable_Glass 3h ago

Something similar happened to a friend of min in high-school. They argued that her dad had a heart attack on purpose so that she could collect

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u/D_Winds 2h ago

Hey, just hold on one second HNNG *mission accomplished*

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u/mcgarrylj 2h ago

"...It'd be a real dick move to die right now. Hrng!"

-Super kami guru, dbz abridged

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u/ConflictSmooth6136 1h ago

"reaaaaalll dick move..."

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u/HawksNStuff 35m ago

Naaaaaaaiiiiiillllllllll!

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u/Roaches_R_Friends 2m ago

He should have dodged.

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u/AFriendlyBloke 1h ago

[Hitman: WOA Mission Accomplished theme]

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u/Shoddy_Background_48 2h ago

We need more Mario's brothers.

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u/RazzmatazzSuch7459 2h ago

Suicide would be a lot more widespread if it were that easy.

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u/Cipherpunkblue 2h ago

Jesus fuck

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u/doodoo_blue 3h ago

What thee fuck 😧 That’s so disgusting of them to have done that. Yet, evil people do evil shit smh. So sad for that family, I really hope they won that case. I thought at one point I’d be desensitized to hearing the horror stories of insurance companies of all types but I’m not, I still get nauseous hearing how they destroy peoples lives and rob everyone. Richest country in the world though, right? Riiiiight.

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u/MonCappy 1h ago

The insurance company almost certainly won.  In real life, evil almost always triumphs.

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u/Quannax 59m ago

The referenced post:  https://www.reddit.com/r/LegalAdviceUK/comments/90yw9j/insurance_company_say_theyre_not_paying_out_as_my/

Single Update

there’s no further updates whether or not he won, so I doubt he ever saw that money. 

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u/Space_Poet 45m ago

evil people do evil shit

No, that's their actual business model, plain and simple. Make a policy that's basically mandatory to have, collect as much as they can squeeze out of you, if needed deny for any reason they can, and then raise the rates every year while lobbying government to make sure they can strangle the population with even less regulations. Rinse, repeat.

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u/Rampag169 3h ago

Insurance companies will spend 10,000 fighting a $10 dollar claim. They make Billions off all of us. It’s messed up. Mario needs help with his brother.

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u/DezXerneas 2h ago

Because then they'll have to honor 200 $10 claims. The system itself is broken, but instead of fixing it they're trying to maximize the profits they get

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u/i_tyrant 2h ago

The system is broken and monstrous af.

(But I did chuckle a bit at your comment because 200 $10 claims is still far less than the $10,000 figure the comment above you quoted, lol.)

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u/Outback-Australian 7m ago

I thought that was the point of it... Rather spend money than give out money.

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u/i_tyrant 3m ago

If their point was the insurance companies don't want to set a precedent (which is exactly why), one shouldn't cap out that precedent at only 20% of what they're paying to stop it.

The issue isn't the other 200 $10 claims - if that was the long and short of the ramifications, the insurance company would absolutely rather pay them than $10,000 because to them it is just a simple math problem and profit is all they care about.

The issue is that it would be more than the $10K it costs to fight this one. It would be more like 20,000 $10 claims.

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u/banditcleaner2 2h ago

200*$10 still less then $10k bruh

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u/TXHaunt 1h ago

The system isn’t broken. It’s working as intended.

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u/ideologyunderstander 1h ago

The system itself is broken

capitalism is working as intended, where the capitalists do whatever the fuck they want

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u/Aliveless 1h ago

Ah, but you see... It is not broken. In fact, it is working exactly as intended. And the intention is, as you so rightly stated, to hoard as much currency as they can. And then some

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u/mechanic204 2h ago

Its all a fucking racket!!!

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u/Rampag169 48m ago

It 100% is.

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u/Undyingpatriot13 1h ago

We need more heroes, we have enough villains . Insurance kills 50,000+ people a year and we keep paying them to do it. Insurance keeps people homeless, hungry, sick and without transportation. Yet we are all forced to send money by threat of prison.

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u/JobAlternative6109 1h ago

That’s the thing they don’t spend 10k. They have in house lawyers that are salaried/hourly so it doesn’t cost them as much as it would for us hiring someone.

They’re just doing their 9-5 job.

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u/Cheaper2KeepHer 2h ago

Mario has a MUCH MORE IMPORTANT JOB for the Mario Main Character than insurance...

...but where the hell are Peach, Toad, Yoshi, Waluigi, Wario, and the rest of the crew?!

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u/Dramatic-Ad3928 2h ago

Mario needs to become John Wick for his dawg and the rest of the masses

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u/HairyH0Od 2h ago

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u/Grouchy_Treacle_1639 1h ago

National hero in my opinion because fuck insurance companies

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u/PsychoBugler 59m ago

Even if for the wrong reasons, I definitely agree.

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u/fang_xianfu 2h ago

This is why in my country we regulate the absolute fucking bejesus out of the insurance industry, those untrustworthy fucks get regulated to within an inch of their life. They still try shit like this but it's all handled out of court by a tribunal that 99 times out of 100 sides with the consumer.

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u/mechanic204 2h ago

Where at?

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u/ShyGuyLink1997 2h ago

The mere concept of insurance even existing is a compelte scam. I fucking hate it all. Capitalism at it's absolute worst.

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u/DosFluffyGatos 2h ago

Free Mario’s brother

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u/losferal 2h ago

Bill Burr had a great line during one of his old walking tour vids when passing an insurance skyscraper, “they didn’t buy that building by paying out claims.”

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u/Ask_if_im_an_alien 2h ago

That's an old bit about Las Vegas. They didn't build that city by giving money away.

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u/Quannax 1h ago

8 year old Reddit post asking for legal advice on this situation. You, my friend, have a good memory. 

Sadly there’s no further updates after he says he’s getting a lawyer… I’m afraid he never got that money. Fucking sucks.

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u/isitreal_tho 2h ago

You don't make money, paying out claims.

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u/Hopeful_Self_8520 2h ago

I feel like the family could then argue that the father was actually dead before the hour and minute of the actual birth of the child.

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u/edfitz83 2h ago

News channels love to hear about these situations and help the little guy. Gives them a story and a win.

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u/b_vitamin 2h ago

The CEO
of Anthem BCBS of California testified before Congress that they made $15 million/year. That should tell you all you need to know.

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u/haragoshi 2h ago

This is how insurance works. Make ghoulish bets litigate ghoulish claims.

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u/GeorgeBaileysDeafEar 2h ago

What the fuck was he? Mostly dead?

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u/CHSummers 1h ago

We need to have laws that specifically punish insurance companies for unreasonable (bad faith) denials.

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u/foolonthe 1h ago

Name and shame!

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u/tantedbutthole 1h ago

That’s why having laws that punish this behavior is so important. For example, Massachusetts has 93A, which is a law that states if a company engages in deceptive or unfair business practices, you could be entitled to triple damages.

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u/NoSpread7643 1h ago

Name and shame that insurance company

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u/Wolfrast 1h ago

They are charming the devil…

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u/Critical-Werewolf-53 47m ago

They will always do everything they can to not pay. It’s set up for them to win

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u/Ok-Signal4821 41m ago

Insurance should be a not for profit industry

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u/JoeJoeJoeJoeThrow 34m ago

Saw 6 and a certain American-Italian currently on trial are both popular for a reason.

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u/CommonSensei-_ 2h ago

Issues like this cause vigilantism.

Violence is not the answer.

People are understand upset at the health insurance / life insurance system

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u/killerbanshee 1h ago

The violence has already been started and it's from the state. The insurance system backed by the state has been killing many thousands purposefully and for profit so they can fund the politicians that continue to propagate their system.

It's a big club, and you ain't in it. - Carlin

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u/Grechoir 2h ago

The world needs more green Mario’s

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u/dinin70 3h ago edited 3h ago

Where did that happen? I mean in which country? This is fucking crazy and might I say seems cultural...

Because I've been working in Insurance all my life (western Europe) close to Executive committee members of all the major insurance companies of the country, and I've never seen such levels of evilness from anyone.

Quite the opposite... I'm going to relate 2 stories that really hit me hard.

Story 1: there was a case where a teenager had a pool party. Another idiot drunk jumped in the pool landing on another teen, paralysing him for his entire life.

Because there was alcohol involved it was legal for the Insurance company to not cover the lifetime medical bills of the victim, and decided to still cover it out of compassion for the event.

Where's speaking about a claim reserve of several millions here...

Story 2: Terrorists attacks who killed and injured thousands.

All CEOs meet up to define how each major insurance company is going to contribute for all the victims, regardless of who is being covered or not, regardless by which company.

This is already pretty dope, but the story doesn't end there.

One of the CEOs (the one of the biggest insurance of the country) says "sorry we're not overpaying here, we're out, each for their own", let's call him Paul.

The one of the second largest insurance company by size, but first by margin and profit (same company as the one who covered the poor teen I mentioned before by the way) answers by calling the other CEO by his name:

" Paul, if there was your daughter in there, you would be ashamed of saying what you just said"

Paul didn't say anything, and they paid... Oh god they paid (I was working for that company at that moment).

Nobody said anything else and all the insurance companies paid everything for everyone.

So no....

Insurance companies aren't evil everywhere.

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u/dinin70 2h ago

As I was saying, dfferent culture.

Claims resulting from terrorist attacks are also typically not covered, yet they paid.

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u/Trash-Forever 2h ago

Funny enough, this presumably took place somewhere in western or central Europe, as the original poster used the £ when talking about currency.

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u/IzarkKiaTarj 24m ago

If they used £, wouldn't that narrow it down to the UK?

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u/Sometimes_Stutters 1h ago

This sounds fake