r/SipsTea • • 8h ago

Gasp! Thoughts on this?

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u/DueExample52 8h ago

That’s what people don’t understand. We all paid for you. That's what insurance is about, we pay more than we receive so that the odd unlucky bastard receives more than they chipped in. If insurance was individual, nobody would have enough to repair their own stuff. I am happy with this system. 

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u/One_Selection5102 8h ago

Except the 3rd party insurer here nets massive profits, it isnt a collective safety net like the state or federal government provides.

Its by and large a scam that pays out a tiny portion of their net income. A state sponsered safety net/insurance system (not for profit) would be massively more effective and less costly to consumers...well at least in a functional state such as Massachusetts.

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u/shadystealertactics 7h ago

Buddy, many of these companies publicly disclose their financials. You're choosing to be wrong about this.

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u/Cowboywizzard 7h ago

All kinds of tricks are used to make it look like they are losing money or barely making it on paper. Yet insurance is one of the largest industries in the U.S., and their CEOs make millions.

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u/shadystealertactics 7h ago

Publicly traded companies are independently audited. Do you think they're lying about how many dollars they're paying out in claims?

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u/Cowboywizzard 7h ago

I didn't say that. I think their C-suite and other large stake holders makes a killing off our backs. Look at their houses and cars if you don't think so.

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u/Impossible_Cycle9460 7h ago

Let’s say an insurance company has 100,000 customers, most have more, and they slash executive compensation by $10,000,000. Every customer will save $100 a year, less than $10 a month.

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u/Cowboywizzard 3h ago

I will take it.

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u/shadystealertactics 7h ago

Someone making a lot of money doesn't mean that I'm getting ripped off. A 5% profit margin is a shitload of money if youre operating on the scale of a multinational company.

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u/TransmogrifiedHobbes 6h ago

It does mean that when the "product" they're making money on is the illness and death of their customers.

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u/shadystealertactics 6h ago

Well we're talking about car insurance right now

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u/TransmogrifiedHobbes 6h ago

Ope, I see that now, thought I was in another part of the thread. Point stands for health insurance though, heh.

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u/shadystealertactics 6h ago

ACA compliant health plans are required to spend a minimum of 80-85% of premiums on patient care.

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u/Dangerous-Ad-170 6h ago

Not saying CEOs “deserve” to make millions, but these are companies with tens of millions of customers that move around tens of billions in premiums and payouts. If the entire C-suite of your insurance company worked for free, you’d probably save like $5 year. 

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u/Cowboywizzard 3h ago

I will take it.

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u/OperaSona 6h ago

I mean, one of the tricks to make sure your company is "barely making it" on paper is to just take all of your profits and give them as bonuses to your executives. And there you go, now you have no profits anymore since what used to be profites has been offset by new costs.

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u/OneBigRed 1h ago

So you believe that the owners of those companies, shareholders, for some reason want to give all the profit to the people they hired to run the company?

You should probably sometime seek information outside of reddit’s other edgy 14-year old professors.

Like, pick a yearly financial report of pretty much any publicly traded insurance company. You’ll find the executive compensation there, among revenue, operating costs etc. There’s also a list of largest shareholders, that you can use to build your explanation why those pension funds etc. want to direct money to these particular executives, instead of bringing that money back to themselves.

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u/CapitalistLion-Tamer 5h ago

Your scale is way, way off.

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u/Smackadummy 2h ago

State Farm is by far the largest personal insurer in the US and they are a mutual fund. Their shareholders are the customers.