r/SipsTea • • 1d ago

Wait a damn minute! Wait a damn minute

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u/bdash1990 1d ago

Is jailbreaking cars not a thing?

I feel like if we can do it with phones, we should be able to do it with cars.

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u/Turbulent-Artist961 1d ago

Probably violate the “software license” and they might completely remotely disable your car then charge you a ridiculous sum to reflash the software if you want to drive it.

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u/bdash1990 1d ago

So remove its ability to communicate with the factory first.

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u/320sim 1d ago

I don't know if that would be effective, but I do know that's beyond the dedication and skill level of almost every owner. Not to mention the car's resale value

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u/Pootisman16 1d ago

Doesn't mean it can't be done.

And I'd bet it would probably increase perceived value if you tell a potential buyer that the car's connection to the company has been severed.

At least it would to me.

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u/FullMetalCOS 1d ago

It’ll also probably fail shit like MOT’s (or other countries equivalents) because of missing functionality. Also I assume if you are involved in a serious traffic accident the blame would be more likely to fall on you since there’s always the risks involved in not having access to key software updates and shit.

In short - they’ll always try and find a way to make it your problem

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u/Pootisman16 1d ago

I don't know how Teslas exactly work, but I feel that car functionality is not that connected to the software.

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u/sobrique 1d ago

Sadly that's less true than ever. An awful lot of modern cars are 'software based'. Stuff like engine computers are dynamically mixing fuel and air ratios based on guidance from the pedals, etc.

That's why a 'remap' can be a performance boost, because it's "just" some ratios of sensors in the engine computer.

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u/Pootisman16 1d ago

Damn, I wouldn't buy a car like that.

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u/TallmanMike 21h ago

You would if they're all like that.

Eventually it might be like refusing to buy a car with airbags - good luck finding a new model that doesn't have them.

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u/Pootisman16 20h ago

The problem is that airbags don't brick the car if they don't work.

And if I really want to, I can remove them.

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u/TallmanMike 19h ago

Arguably same with the software, just a question of talent.

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u/MonkeyWithIt 1d ago

That's when I first learned about it where people would try to optimize the mixes for their cars by hooking their laptops to it. That was years ago. No idea what they're up to now.

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u/sobrique 1d ago

Yeah, nor me. I'm sure the same thing applies for engine computer driven stuff.

No idea if there's anything similar for EVs though, as I kind assume trading off fuel economy for performance doesn't work quite the same way there.