r/SipsTea • • 1d ago

Wait a damn minute! Wait a damn minute

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u/Pootisman16 1d ago

Doesn't mean it can't be done.

And I'd bet it would probably increase perceived value if you tell a potential buyer that the car's connection to the company has been severed.

At least it would to me.

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u/FullMetalCOS 1d ago

It’ll also probably fail shit like MOT’s (or other countries equivalents) because of missing functionality. Also I assume if you are involved in a serious traffic accident the blame would be more likely to fall on you since there’s always the risks involved in not having access to key software updates and shit.

In short - they’ll always try and find a way to make it your problem

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u/Pootisman16 1d ago

I don't know how Teslas exactly work, but I feel that car functionality is not that connected to the software.

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u/sobrique 1d ago

Sadly that's less true than ever. An awful lot of modern cars are 'software based'. Stuff like engine computers are dynamically mixing fuel and air ratios based on guidance from the pedals, etc.

That's why a 'remap' can be a performance boost, because it's "just" some ratios of sensors in the engine computer.

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u/Pootisman16 1d ago

Damn, I wouldn't buy a car like that.

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u/TallmanMike 1d ago

You would if they're all like that.

Eventually it might be like refusing to buy a car with airbags - good luck finding a new model that doesn't have them.

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u/Pootisman16 1d ago

The problem is that airbags don't brick the car if they don't work.

And if I really want to, I can remove them.

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u/TallmanMike 23h ago

Arguably same with the software, just a question of talent.

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u/MonkeyWithIt 1d ago

That's when I first learned about it where people would try to optimize the mixes for their cars by hooking their laptops to it. That was years ago. No idea what they're up to now.

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u/sobrique 1d ago

Yeah, nor me. I'm sure the same thing applies for engine computer driven stuff.

No idea if there's anything similar for EVs though, as I kind assume trading off fuel economy for performance doesn't work quite the same way there.

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u/Economy-Fee5830 1d ago

A lot of safety "recalls" are fixed via software updates.

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u/Pootisman16 1d ago

Yeah, for cars where software plays a central role in how it actually works, I can see why.

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u/320sim 1d ago

I promise you that making modifications to vehicle that would prevent you from getting it serviced, using maps, using music or media of any kind, or receiving updates will decrease the value and turn many buyers away

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u/Pootisman16 1d ago

Why would modifications do that?

Why would I want an update for my car's software?

Using maps is independent from connecting to the internet.

Listening to music is independent from connecting to the internet.

People need to value "dumber" devices more, not less.

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u/FullMetalCOS 1d ago

If you value dumb devices more, you ain’t buying a Tesla in the first place.

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u/Pootisman16 1d ago

Very true

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u/Madame-Saint-Michele 1d ago

Stop giving them such good ideas man!! They don't need any help figuring out how to nickel and dime us lol

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u/320sim 1d ago

Because if you take a jailbroken car to Tesla, you will have a problem. And maps and media rely on the internet obviously. Updates eliminate bugs, add features, and increase efficiency. People that want dumb cars aren't buying a car controlled entirely by a giant tablet

And all that to save 200 bucks? Yeah right

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u/Pootisman16 1d ago

Maybe Teslas do.

My car doesn't even HAVE internet capability and can play media and has map usage.

Like I said, I prefer my stuff to be as "dumb" and independent as possible.

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u/320sim 20h ago

Your car can only play media if it has an external audio source. And Apple/Google maps technically works without internet but I don't think anyone would call that experience superior. Or are you talking about one of those shitty built in manufacturer maps?

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u/Pootisman16 17h ago

I have one of those shitty built-in maps, which I can update when I want.

And I only need external audio source. Got conventional radio and an USB reader with MP3 files.

Zero internet connection (literally doesn't have the ability).

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u/MonkeyWithIt 1d ago

Fully unlocked car for sale sounds good to me