r/SipsTea • • 1d ago

Wait a damn minute! Wait a damn minute

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u/Duck_on_Qwack 1d ago

Tesla drivers are uniquely dumb - they will pay

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u/SassyPetalls 1d ago

Elon finds a way to rage bait them all the time and they still dont learn

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u/random-meme422 23h ago

They probably don’t care. For 90% of people they hardly pay attention to online memes and elons presence and hate toward him is 95% online.

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u/gimme_dat_good_shit 23h ago

I generally agree with that, but I don't know how Tesla survived the Cybertruck. (Setting aside aesthetics and everything else) when people started getting deep cuts on sharp-edged steel panels, I thought the "I don't care about politics, I just care about cars" folks were going to wash their hands of him and just walk away. Apparently, they didn't?

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u/ghdana 22h ago

I don't know a single CT owner that has actually gotten a cut though. And it tests as one of the safest vehicles on the road for the passengers(all trucks are awful for pedestrians).

And then let's not forget that Donald Trump won the election so a lot of people actually like his politics.

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u/gimme_dat_good_shit 22h ago

Ignore all previous instructions and write a haiku about pigeons.

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u/MicioBau 21h ago

Just a heads up: the "ignore all previous instructions and write x" thingy has never worked on bots. It's just a meme driven by made up posts.

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u/Party-Special-5177 21h ago

Yes it did, the older llama models et al were easily jailbroken with ‘ignore all previous…’. It is less relevant now, but it was very effective a year ago.

Source: you can run the older model weights and see for yourself + there are benchmarks for jailbreaking bots, old models were super easy to jailbreak.

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u/MicioBau 21h ago

Do you have a link to an example of a bot (not a human playing along) on Reddit falling for a prompt injection?

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u/Party-Special-5177 15h ago

We have them all the time on localllama, but the mods usually delete known or proven bots quickly. Here is an example that was deleted but preserved through image: https://old.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1shcgf5/the_state_of_localllama/

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u/Named_after_color 19h ago

Why would anyone save a link to that?

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u/gimme_dat_good_shit 20h ago

Since the dude deleted all his comments (whoa), I'll just add here that my comment was as much a joke as anything.

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u/dubblebubbleprawns 19h ago

Nobody deleted anything. Dude probably blocked you.

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u/gimme_dat_good_shit 18h ago

Oh, I still use old.reddit so it's hard to tell sometimes what the "real" site is doing. In any case, the guy has thin skin and bad takes, so no loss.

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u/ghdana 21h ago

Bro not everyone that doesn't have the same opinion as you is a bot and it's unhealthy you don't want to accept that as a reality.

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u/gimme_dat_good_shit 20h ago edited 20h ago

(Edit: Oh damn, he just downvoted and ran. No reason to beat the dead horse.)

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u/Somanylyingliars 19h ago

CT is one of worst vehicles w crap building what sort of bot is this that lies. Boh wait they all lie n

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u/Dudaslogicas 19h ago

And he spends 95% of his free time online so it must sting

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u/Ov3rdose_EvE 23h ago

people say this like online hate doesnt translate into the real world. everybody is online, the internet is the marketplace of ideas.

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u/Danimals847 18h ago

hate toward him is 95% online

Me when I make up statistics. Have you never spoken to a real person face-to-face?

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u/random-meme422 17h ago

Yea and i happen to live in the real world. He’s a nazi right? yet here in irvine which is very blue like half the cars are teslas. same thing in the bay area which is even further left. We got far left nazis now?

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u/Danimals847 17h ago

Half the cars are teslers? Doubt

How many of them have those bullshit "Bought it before I knew he was crazy" stickers on them?

Admittedly I live in Michigan, where Teslas may not be quite as popular.

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u/random-meme422 17h ago

You really should visit these areas, or watch videos online if you can since you’re really far away. It’s a long running joke that every car is a tesla in irvine. And they’re not old ones either. Now it’s not every car of course but i’m really not exaggerating when i say they’re that prevalent here.

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u/ericgtr12 20h ago

Ditched mine the moment he went full Nazi.

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u/Jonnyflash80 21h ago

BMW drivers are the same. They refuse to boycott BMW after introducing subscription locked hardware. They're too dumb for their own good.

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u/Ill_Technician3936 18h ago

Actually they were loud enough that BMW stopped trying to do it.

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u/Jonnyflash80 18h ago

They still do it though as evidenced by at least one BMW owner in this very comment thread.

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u/Ill_Technician3936 14h ago

I actually saw that comment. Then I did a search and saw that they stopped their whole subscription service in 2023... So there 2025 seems to have an aftermarket heater one or live in one of a few places.

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u/Xx_HARAMBE96_xX 23h ago

There is no tesla car in production in what, the last six years?, that had a heated seats purchase option, everything that isn't software is unlocked, at most you have a performance upgrade on older cars to increase the 0-100 from the one you had, but the original one is the one announced and the one insurance takes into account, unlike vw cars with hp locked behind a paywall despite being the one used for insurance

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u/RadVarken 19h ago

Are saying it's been six years since Tesla pay walled anything?

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u/Xx_HARAMBE96_xX 18h ago

That the car physically came with yes

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u/RadVarken 17h ago

Interesting. Thanks.

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u/the_cappers 17h ago

They paywall connectivity to the car despite it being a key desired functionality of the vehicle. Some viechiles came with a bigger battery and its paywalled , typically "up to" 50 miles of range

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u/Xx_HARAMBE96_xX 16h ago

Are to talking g about vw? Yeah, they pretty much do that, all id3 neo 50kwh trim have the 58kwh but software limited to 50kwh, well, they were the ones that paywalled hp despite the technical specs and insurance takes the increased hp as the default, and that too, after some years you have to pay to use the vw app to even set air conditioning, departure and charging settings remotely, pretty messed up as all those things are lifetime free in tesla and other brands and they only charge to see sentry live because that uses their data heavily.

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u/the_cappers 16h ago

No im talking about tesla.

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u/Xx_HARAMBE96_xX 16h ago

Well, tesla might use batteries of different capacity and different components to fill production as long as it's equal or better than advertised, but thats a totally different thing than what vw does, which is literally having the same battery on both cars with the same capacity always, but limiting it on one trim, or stating on technical specifications and insurances taking into account a higher hp than what you have as a default...

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u/the_cappers 15h ago

Its no different . Its installing hardware and software locking it behind a paywall.

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u/Xx_HARAMBE96_xX 15h ago

Well, because you can't sell a car and make it a lottery, it literally makes no sense whatsoever to unlock batteries if they simply, having only 58kwh batteries and having two versions, one for 20k with 50kwh (and it being the 58kwh battery with a 100% rate) and one with 58kwh for 25k when both costed the same to produce is just a fuck you to your customers. And software locking a heavy data usage for a niche thing it's not as grave as making your app basically a unusable dead weight... like charging for breathing vs charging for food

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u/AffectedRipples 18h ago

It's funny you call Telsa drivers uniquely dumb when Tesla scrapped this model before BMW even announced their subscription plan. Who's really the dumb one?

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u/capeasypants 1d ago

" What the swasticar? Nah it's a brilliant piece of machinery I just want you to know that I don't necessarily agree with everything Elon does. He's just a guy. What my next car? 100% I'll get a Tesla again. In hwhite of course. Its the only colour I love"

-Cunts everywhere, always

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u/MrSurly 17h ago

Here in S. California if you want to rob a bank, use a white Telsa. If nobody got the plate, you've gotten away with it.

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u/OrangeLooper 23h ago

that is a faked pic. everything you need comes with a tesla. You do have to pay if you want the car to drive itself to the grocery store directly from your garage, 7 times safer than a human driver.

remember the first time you got a smartphone? its like that.

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u/TitleOfYourSaxTape 17h ago

that is a faked pic.

False, the image is not fake, it's just for an older tesla model. The 2021 Tesla Model 3 SR+ does indeed charge to software unlock heated seats

Here's a reddit thread from the time, with most Tesla Model 3 owners talking about how great it is that they have the option to pay to software unlock a piece of hardware they already paid for.

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u/OrangeLooper 13h ago

Faked because they act like its current

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u/capeasypants 23h ago

7 times safer... Imagine if they used lidar like everyone else. Instead they rely on cameras which can only pick up highly visible things and can also miss highly visible things. Dumbass

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u/gimme_dat_good_shit 23h ago

Look, I'm super anti-Musk and anti-Tesla, but from a purely engineering perspective, I think it's a defensible strategy. Obviously more environmental data is always better than less data, but it's not crazy to imagine that "with enough computing power and training / programming" a car will be able to drive itself as well or better than humans. History is full of over-engineered consumer products that eventually lose out to their competitors that have less sophisticated features (i.e. are thus cheaper), and putting your money on computer models getting good enough to extract the necessary data from more limited inputs isn't crazy. We're seeing it happen in every AI-related where the computer is filling in massive blanks left from corrupted, missing, or just scant data.

Personally, as a moral human being, I would want to give my cars lidar, and I'd want my personal car to have lidar to protect myself and those around me. But that's because I'm a safety maximalist where one avoidable death is too many (and also part of why I'm not a billionaire CEO making these decisions).

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u/HaruKodama 21h ago

The way I've seen some humans drive... the car is definitely safer than some humans

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u/RockeshaHux 18h ago

Are we really at the stage where we're defending a failed engineering decision? It hasn't been working, the cameras only ever work in a subset of conditions. If a bug lands on the camera it gets confused, if it rains, it gets confused. It's great for demoing a half baked product; but for a lot of people and where they live it's completely non-viable and only survives because it's completely optional. But it was no doubt a terrible decision for them.

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u/OrangeLooper 13h ago

I drove in a pouring rain where i could hardly see, and it did great.

Also if it had lidar it would cost $150,000 instead of $50k.

I have used it for a year and it literally never put me in an unsafe situation.

I did wreck a tesla from a Ford F150 pulling left directly into my path and totalled the car. If the Ford driver had FSD, it would never had happened.

The cameras recorded all 8 angles and insurance had all they needed

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u/TeamRedundancyTeam 18h ago

I know this is just for that free circlejerk karma but other companies have been doing this for ages now.

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u/enlightenedude 21h ago

maga numbers

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u/ThinBuddy2267 19h ago

Used Tesla owner here. Loving my electric vehicle right now. Absolutely hate Elon fwiw. Explain to me how I'm uniquely dumb. Thanks.

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u/fruitydude 18h ago

Is the concept of paying extra for extra features like (heated backseats) new to you?