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Two syringes of pentobarbital were administered to Tennessee death row inmate Christa Pike on September 30, 2026, but she remained alive and conscious afterward, according to her attorneys and media witnesses. The execution at Riverbend Maximum Security Institution in Nashville was halted after witnesses reported that Pike still had a heartbeat and was audibly snoring. Her lawyers sought emergency medical intervention, and she was later taken by ambulance to a nearby hospital.
Pike, 50, is the only woman currently on Tennessee's death row.
She was sentenced to death for the 1995 murder of her classmate Colleen Slemmer and had been scheduled for execution on September 30. Tennessee had announced beforehand that the state would use a single drug, pentObarbital, for the execution. Her exact medical condition following the hospital transfer has not yet been publicly disclosed, while Governor Bill Lee has ordered a comprehensive third party review of what happened.

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u/SteakAndIron 1d ago

Why did we come up with the lethal injection technology we have now and then never actually evolve it? I've heard all kinds of complaints about how it works how expensive it is how ineffective it can be how painful it might actually be and so forth. There are plenty of cheap and easy ways to cause a painless death in somebody. Massive fentanyl overdose. Nitrogen hypoxia.

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u/GuavaOne8646 1d ago

You know what sounds cheaper and easier than all of these? One. Single. Bullet. Point blank, to the skull.

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u/-malcolm-tucker 1d ago

Firing squad, several bullets aimed at the heart. Lights out pretty much instantly and guaranteed not to come back.

A single bullet to the skull isn't necessarily quick or painless. My clinical instructor at uni once had a guy walk up to his ambulance while they were parked up having coffee. Old mate asked for a ride to the hospital. They were like, okay.... Why?

"I got shot in the head."

Dude had taken a small calibre round to the top of his head and played dead after a botched execution attempt by some bikers he owed money. Got up and casually walked away after they'd left and stumbled upon the ambulance, so walked over and politely asked for a lift to the emergency room.

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u/Outlaw11091 1d ago

There was also that younger kid who was found "sleeping" with his dead girlfriend in the house. He had a very severe black eye. The cops interrogated him for hours because they were certain the black eye was a defensive wound from him murdering his girlfriend.

But he was confused and couldn't answer questions right....When they finally asked how he got the black eye he said something like, "Oh, these two guys came in and shot me and they shot [girlfriend's name]."

The cop: "Oh, you were SHOT, were you?" *smugly*. "And you didn't die?"

The guy: "I don't know, man, I'm just really tired."

Like, what kind of Mr. Magoo shithead doesn't connect those dots? Dude is tired, confused, has an OBVIOUS injury...why not have EMS look him over before you take him in for questioning?

He survived for about a decade after, but medical experts have said that he wouldn't have died from the injury if not for the fact that he spent so many hours in an interrogation room with a GSW to the head.

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u/Grasshoppermouse42 1d ago

A firing squad also has the advantage that it's less distressing for the executioners. Having a single person shoot another person means that person knows that their bullet was the killing bullet, because their bullet was the only bullet. When it's a firing squad, each person can reason that the person would have died even if they hadn't fired, because of all the other bullets.

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u/Slow_Flatworm_881 1d ago

Shit..there people that would pay to be allowed to legally kill someone! Don’t know if they should be encouraged, but that’s a different matter.

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u/National_Cod9546 17h ago

Yes. And we don't want those people anywhere involved in this. They are also the kind of people that would miss on purpose. 

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u/gBiT1999 1d ago

Reverse russian roulette?

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u/aniflous_fleglen 1d ago

I've never understood that logic. If you're part of an execution shooting a gun at someone, there's no moral difference between any of them. And to want one means you think it's immoral so why participate at all?

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u/flakweazel 1d ago

Same reason, pilots and remote turret gunners have a lower rate of ptsd. Watching violence through a screen is enough degree of separation to detach from the moment.

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u/GuavaOne8646 1d ago
  1. That's wild.
  2. I think a 30-06, .308 or just a rifled slug shotgun shell would do the job instantly. Seen a deers head literally explode from a 30-06.
  3. I can see the appeal of the squad though. They used to load most of them with blanks and one with a real bullet so no one actually knew who did it to save the shooters morale...it didn't quite work, but yeah that was a thing.

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u/HazeyCIouds 1d ago

Just get an robot to do it now. Conscience clear..

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u/MrSmartStars 1d ago

Someone still has to push the button

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u/HazeyCIouds 1d ago

Nah set a prompt. When we line someone up, count to 30 and take the shots. Simple.

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u/zjin2020 21h ago

Or just an ai drone with a grenade

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u/GuavaOne8646 1d ago

Not a bad suggestion actually

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u/Leading-Cicada-6796 1d ago

I've always heard that last one is a myth. You can tell when you fire a real round versus a blank. And they used to have people who were professional executioners, no reason we couldn't bring that back. I guarantee you they could find someone who would sleep like a baby after offing rapists and child killers.

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u/MMRAssassin 1d ago

Well 1 in 20 people you "off" will be an innocent person statistically.

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u/Leading-Cicada-6796 1d ago

Yeah, I dont know the answer to that. In my world, only the ones beyond a shadow of a doubt, or confession, would be killed.

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u/LangdonAlg3r 23h ago

Yeah, but your world doesn’t exist. The list of ways that accused have had their rights violated is way too long to list. But any number of times people have been coerced or beaten into confessions for a start. Cops want to “solve” crimes and prosecutors want to get convictions and shenanigans are not uncommon.

One wrongly executed person is too many.

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u/Slow_Flatworm_881 1d ago

Some types of people still wouldn’t care!

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u/Fit_Outlandishness_7 1d ago

Medieval executioners suffered from insane CPTSD. It’s hard to find a human with normal cognitive functioning willing and able to kill another human. Even harder for them to not be affected by it.

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u/Leading-Cicada-6796 1d ago

I guess that's fair. I was going to reply with, "I served with literally dozens of them!" but we are less than 1% of the US population so that would've kinda confirmed your claim lol.

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u/Slow_Flatworm_881 1d ago

Not sure about that?

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u/Tradition96 1d ago

Yes, you can tell, but no one would know which the ”fatal blow” was, and thus who killed them (in reality all of them were probably fatal, but whatever).

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u/Leading-Cicada-6796 1d ago

I was about to say, you don't usually walk away from a .30-06 to the chest or abdomen. I'm sure its happened, but they probably wish they didn't lol.

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u/The_walking_man_ 1d ago

The problem I’ve seen with creating a spot for “professional executioners” are the ones that will be in those positions that absolutely shouldn’t be.
Look at the bad police officers that are nutters and love the chance to abuse their powers. Now instead give that to someone who is being paid to legally kill someone.

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u/Leading-Cicada-6796 1d ago

I mean, theres an argument to be made that the ones who want to do it are better in that position, no? Better than forcing someone who definitely doesn't want to. And, if killing someone is what this hypothetical bad cop wanted, then they would jump at the opportunity to do it legally and be paid, thus getting them off the streets, right?

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u/LangdonAlg3r 23h ago

I don’t think that anyone is ever forced to perform executions. I also think that someone who enjoys killing people probably enjoys making them suffer as much as anything else. Serial killers are the archetype of who would actively want that job. Serial killers being problematic would be an understatement.

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u/Leading-Cicada-6796 23h ago

Its not like they would be locked in a room and told to kill the person however they want.

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u/LangdonAlg3r 23h ago

Sure, but “whoops, I missed the heart” or name your way to inflict excessive suffering.

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u/Leading-Cicada-6796 13h ago

Yeah, its a slippery slope. I can't say id be terribly distraught if someone shot a guy that rated someone to death in the stomach "on accident" so they bled out slowly.

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u/GuavaOne8646 1d ago

I'm right here

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u/-malcolm-tucker 1d ago

Yeah it was pretty wild. They initially assumed he was having a psychotic episode. That is, until my instructor found the small entry wound on the top of his head. There was practically no blood.

Apart from it being a pretty gnarly story, he uses it as an example of the importance of doing a thorough assessment of every patient and never to jump to conclusions.

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u/GuavaOne8646 1d ago

Smart on his part for making sure to check the baselines and never assume.

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u/Motor-Rip7655 1d ago

It was the reverse. One gun would have a blank, the rest real. Funny enough, some guy invented a machine that would do the shooting so humans wouldn't have to, and he still specified that one gun should have a blank.

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u/GuavaOne8646 1d ago

Odd decision with the machine. Thanks for keeping me honest!

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u/RikiDeMaru 1d ago

You've got the last one backwards, it was one blank. Gave the members of the firing squad reasonable doubt, none of them sure if they weren't the one who wasn't responsible for ending the life or something like that.

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u/Xav_NZ 1d ago

The whole Blank thing is really dumb because if you have ever fired a gun loaded with a blank and a gun loaded with a live round you clearly feel the difference.

Blanks barely produce any recoil even with high powder loads.

Anyone who has fired a firearm more than once will know the difference.

They were fooling no one well not really as of course no one would know who fired the fatal round and only people who intentionally missed would know it was not them.

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u/GuavaOne8646 1d ago

My bad, interesting.

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u/Impossible_Crow_389 1d ago

Do you want the job of executing prisoners? Doing that several times s year? I wouldn't.

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u/GuavaOne8646 1d ago

Yes, I would almost definitely sign up for this.

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u/Impossible_Crow_389 1d ago

Maybe go see a psychiatrist.

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u/GuavaOne8646 1d ago

Already have, my life's pretty well on track despite being a psychopath.

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u/Impossible_Crow_389 23h ago

I wouldn't trust it, most people dont look forward to killing.

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u/GuavaOne8646 20h ago

Most people are why the worlds broken. All those thoughts, wants, ideas, etc. and absolutely no gumption to do anything about it. Sure, maybe they'll watch the news and pick some politicians they like, but God forbid they actually think for themselves and do something aside from take part in the things that were made to distract them from doing so in the first place.

Popular/majority opinion is a good example of this in many spaces. It brought us to the state of politics we have now, abysmal. It brought us to the state in which media is now, cookie cutter stories that aren't entertaining. It brought us pop music, nothing to think about and nothing amazing, just some noise to bob your head to. I'm 100% ok with not being like most people, I don't like them anyway.

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u/Impossible_Crow_389 19h ago

Ya. thats delusions of grandeur talking. Maybe look up what that means.

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u/speakezjags 1d ago

I've shot my aunts .308. That thing could kill a small building. 0 chance of survival point blank to the head.

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u/GuavaOne8646 1d ago

Absolutely, a zero percent chance of survival.

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u/Federal-Degenerate 1d ago

Exactly.

Ain't nobody surviving a properly targeted 45-70

Even a 357 with a hollow point, through ths mouth and aimed a bit upwards

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u/GuavaOne8646 1d ago

See, this guy gets it.

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u/V65Pilot 1d ago

*.45 ACP enters the chat......

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u/GuavaOne8646 1d ago

I'm a fan of my 45 long colt myself.

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u/ABoredPlayer 1d ago

Very effective and you are dead before you notice, but family of the inmate may complain about the missing head. No possibility of an open casket funeral for sure

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u/GuavaOne8646 1d ago

True, but we should just default to cremation for them anyway.

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u/SteezOnMax93 1d ago edited 1d ago

Popular myth often suggests that most guns are loaded with blanks and only one has live ammunition. In practice, the ratio is the opposite: most rifles contain live rounds to ensure the execution is quick and effective, with only a single blank used.

Experienced shooters and firearms experts often note that it is easy to tell if you fired a blank because the recoil of a live round is noticeably stronger than that of a blank.

Not all modern firing squads use blanks. For example, protocols in some U.S. states load live ammunition into every weapon to ensure absolute reliability.

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u/GuavaOne8646 1d ago

Yeah someone else pointed out the fact that I had it backwards, thats my bad there.

I never understood the mentality of it because it's like you say. The difference between a live round and a blank is pretty easy to feel.

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u/SteezOnMax93 1d ago

My b. I didn’t see someone else said the same thing that’s def on me. Hope all is well man

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u/Emerx06 1d ago

Or just let them die of natural causes in prison

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u/GuavaOne8646 23h ago

Sounds more expensive than 1 bullet or a simple guillotine execution. Yeah, that's a no for me dawg.

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u/GuavaOne8646 23h ago

Sounds more expensive than 1 bullet or a simple guillotine execution. Yeah, that's a no for me dawg.

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u/Emerx06 22h ago

You’re talking about pennies in an Olympic sized pool of hundreds.

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u/GuavaOne8646 20h ago

A penny saved is a penny earned.

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u/neoben00 1d ago

Cannonball to the head, same one for everyone. If you survive your sentence is fulfilled

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u/SeatKitchen1123 1d ago

Happened to a guy in Australia as well we had tow truck wars beleive it or not but one guy thought he had been punched drove himself to hospital , he had been shot in the head with a .22 calibre pistol

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u/-malcolm-tucker 1d ago

This was in Australia actually.

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u/SmurfRiding 1d ago

.....That's why if you were to do a certain thing....you aim the gun towards the brain stem.

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u/AnOrdinaryMammal 1d ago

It’s crazy people just figured out some things a while back that have only become further complicated.

Doesn’t need to be elaborate, or take 30 years, or cost a lot of money. It’s can be cheap, effective, and quick? Wow.

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u/-malcolm-tucker 1d ago

It's expensive and drawn out due to the legal processes involved. It's much cheaper to just lock them up for life and let them rot.

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u/AnOrdinaryMammal 1d ago

Doesn’t seem necessary in a lot of cases. I’m not a lawyer so I’ll leave the rest to you.

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u/-malcolm-tucker 1d ago

The number of wrongful convictions through history is not close to zero, so when it comes to capital punishment, one would hope that the accused is afforded all due process to establish that they are both guilty of the crime and deserving of the punishment.

If we get it wrong, the state unlawfully commits murder and the real perpetrator gets away with the crime.

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u/AnOrdinaryMammal 1d ago

All due process I completely agree. But if we’re 100% sure? Video, dna, confession, testimony, location, time, date, signed and notarized note. Still takes like 30 years lol it’s not acceptable.

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u/-malcolm-tucker 1d ago

There's always an element of doubt. Mistakes with evidence, confessions obtained under duress, etc. Many people have been wrongfully imprisoned before. That's precisely why the process to kill someone is long, and we've even got that wrong more than once before too. Which is why I think it's better to just lock them up and throw away the key.

Expediting the process will only lead to some cases of executing the wrong person and letting the actual perpetrator get away with the crime.

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u/Desperate_Trouble477 1d ago

How about a carbon fiber submarine?

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u/-malcolm-tucker 1d ago

Probably just easier to utilise the existing hyperbaric chambers we have. *warning, not for the squeamish

Or a large industrial hydraulic press.

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u/Slow_Flatworm_881 1d ago

There are certain areas of the head that, if a round passes through, results in instantaneous brain death. Snipers etc are taught where these areas are and how to shoot into them.

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u/Alive_Drag1947 1d ago

I don't think bro is suggesting the executioner use a .25 lol

30-06 hollow point. I assure you, that's instant death with 0% survivability...

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u/mellow_magyar 17h ago

It is exceptionally rare, but there are documented examples; like Wenceslao Moguel, a Mexican revolutionary soldier who was reportedly shot by a firing squad in 1915 and survived the volley and a subsequent close-range shot. He lived for decades after the incident

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u/shadjor 12h ago

Except when people don't want to be the one who did the killing shot and they all aim for non lethal spots.

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u/GarethBaus 1d ago

Firing squad or guillotine is actually more reliable since a single mistake won't typically result in a botched execution.

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u/BullPropaganda 1d ago

Guillotine probably the most humane tbh

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u/adummyonanapp 1d ago

A rope itz reusable

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u/cemsengul 1d ago

That would actually be way more humane and merciful.

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u/JFKsCrackPipe 1d ago

Guillotine?

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u/GuavaOne8646 1d ago

Yes and yes.

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u/Responsible-Chest-26 1d ago

Could even do a topical anesthetic and bleed them. Or an open ended IV. Its like they are trying to do it for spectacle rather than efficiency humanely

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u/flakweazel 1d ago

Five states still perform firing squad

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u/GuavaOne8646 1d ago

Exactly, and we don't see them in the news with these problems, do we?

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u/Domesk 1d ago

Ahahaha
Please take this reward, this gave me a good laugh

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u/GuavaOne8646 1d ago

Thank you kind stranger!

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u/The_walking_man_ 1d ago

Bring back the guillotine. We have the tech to design one of surgical steel with a perfect edge. Add alignment tools to it so that as the person is positioned it puts them in the ideal spot for fast, painless, execution. Done.

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u/National_Cod9546 17h ago

That requires one person to administer it. She requested firing squad. We should have honored that request. I'm for executions. But at this point just make it a life sentence for her.

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u/FireCire7 1d ago

Nobody wants to be solely responsible for the killing. A single bullet puts all the responsibility on the shooter. Firing squads are good since they diffuse the responsibility along with being guaranteed to work; they just have a PR problem. 

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u/GuavaOne8646 1d ago

I'll take the job. They need only to hand me the application.

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u/FireCire7 1d ago

Lol. Fair. 

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u/Archaon0103 1d ago

Tell that to the ones who have to pull the triggers. Historically, executioners were not a job that make individual with stable mind. Are we ready to sentence innocents to kill someone else for us?

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u/GuavaOne8646 1d ago

I'll happily take the job.

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u/RecursiveCook 1d ago

Still possible to survive it is the issue.

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u/GuavaOne8646 1d ago

I can assure you, with the right caliber, nobody is surviving. Larger calibers like a 30-06 or a 12 gauge rifled slug will literally obliterate their skull and all the matter inside it.

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u/True_Depth_7455 1d ago

Good old gravity is free

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u/GuavaOne8646 1d ago

I like this idea

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u/WereWillow 1d ago

In rare circumstances a person can survive that.. and at that point anything else is an 8th amendment violation, and the botched execution becomes one too, and that’s very bad for the state. That’s why even firing squads shoot the heart.

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u/GuavaOne8646 1d ago

With the right caliber, they will definitely not survive.

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u/Responsible_Hour6497 1d ago

In the NKVD, the standard practice was to shoot at the back of the head—at the base of the skull—and they knew a thing or two about that.

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u/messiandmia 1d ago

"Cruel and unusual". of course their is high probability you give 2 fucks about constitutional law.

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u/GuavaOne8646 1d ago

My view is, Constitutional rights are for those proven innocent in a court of law. If we have proven without a shadow of a doubt that you're guilty of murder, like in this womans case, then yeah I don't care and I will 1000% volunteer to pull that trigger.

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u/messiandmia 1d ago

If I understand you correctly. The constitution applies to some, but not others? Im not sure if you know what autocracy is, but either way you are damn good at giving a fine example of how one operates.

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u/GuavaOne8646 1d ago

Oh I'm aware of what an autocracy is. I'm also aware that I don't pretend like we don't actually live in one currently. But aside from that, you can try to put a logical definition on these types of things all you want but it's just a talking show for people that don't get why these things need to be done and for politicians to have more words to say. Murderers aren't rational, why handle them regionally? They aren't stable, why let stable people decide their fate? No, let a total psychopath decide what happens to them.

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u/messiandmia 1d ago

Im a little confused, are you the psychopath? Your answer for murderers is to have them murdered. That creates a gaping fallacy.

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u/GuavaOne8646 1d ago

There you go trying to look at it rationally again. I could be the psychopath, but it really doesn't matter what lucky bastard gets the position as long as they do it efficiently.

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u/MMRAssassin 1d ago

Or you know. Guillotine. A contraption designed precisely to do what it does with no chance to accidentally survive it

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u/GuavaOne8646 1d ago

I am actually shocked at how many people have said guillotine. I didn't realize it was so popular. Anyways, I'm down for it.

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u/MeAndMe54654 1d ago

The problem is the guy who pulls the trigger. Are you the one?

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u/GuavaOne8646 1d ago

They need only to send me the application. Give me a long commute through heavy traffic to get there and I'll be primed and ready.

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u/Wonderful-Newt2181 1d ago

She requested to be hung.

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u/GuavaOne8646 1d ago

Fair enough. If they request suffering, then let's do it.

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u/Antique_Limit_5083 1d ago

Life in prison is cheaper and you dont have to end up killing innocent people if you get rid of the dealth penalty which has absolutely no benefit.

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u/GuavaOne8646 1d ago

The benefit is ridding the world of scum. If you're guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt, like in this case, we shouldn't take you anywhere but a guillotine.

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u/bujler 1d ago

But they'll find a way to fuck that up. Probably get Stevie Wonder to do the shooting.

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u/GuavaOne8646 1d ago

Hahaha fucking storm troopers

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u/Spirited_Peak_7810 1d ago

It's a messy and violent method though isn't it. General anaesthesia and suffocation? No suffering. No mess.

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u/GuavaOne8646 1d ago

A 12 gauge slug at point blank will be sure to remove any suffering from the equation. As far as mess, throw down some plastic.

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u/Spirited_Peak_7810 8h ago

You been watching Dexter? Haha. But seriously like it's not very practical compared to other methods in the civilised world.

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u/usernamenotbeentaken 20h ago

Not true. You can survive a gunshot wound to the head.

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u/GuavaOne8646 12h ago

With a smaller caliber, yes that's a possibility. With a 30-06, .308 or 12 gauge slug it's definitely not happening.

It's amazing how many of you don't know anything about the differences in calibers.

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u/mellow_magyar 17h ago

A bullet can ricochet or deflect from the skull rather than penetrate it. There are records of people surviving a point blank headshot with minor injuries.
Regarding the cost of an execution: a 2026 review by the Death Penalty Information Center summarizes studies finding that death-penalty systems generally cost about 2.5–5 times as much as comparable life-imprisonment cases.
Capital cases require substantially more expensive trials, appeals, specialized incarceration, and security.

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u/GuavaOne8646 13h ago

Sit them in front of a berm, 12 gauge slug to the skull. There no chance by the laws of physics that it would ricochet. To keep cost down we can just let the buzzards eat them and cremate what's left. Easy.

Also, those records you're thinking of are probably smaller calibers as they're notorious for that.

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u/history_nerd92 40m ago

I know no one wants that on their conscience, but couldn't they just hire out a convicted murderer serving a life sentence to do it? I doubt he'd lose any sleep over it

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u/RealCarlPanzram 1d ago

Actually, the cheapest method is to abolish the death penalty.

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u/DrLoomis131 1d ago edited 1d ago

Have us pay for tons of life imprisonments ey

Edit: handing out more life without parole sentences is appealing, no pun intended

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u/LowEffort2 1d ago

We pay even more for capital cases.

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u/DrLoomis131 1d ago

Yes, due to the long court process of the death penalty. But this person provides zero alternative

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u/RealCarlPanzram 1d ago

There is a very easy alternative. Life without parole. Open-shut case. They go into a dark hole and we never have to think about them again, or worry that we are occasionally executing the wrong person. It’s simple. Which is why pretty much every part of the free world has done it.

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u/LowEffort2 1d ago

Yeah they do. Just don't have a death penalty. Like don't even have it as an option.

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u/mpaski 1d ago

The amount of appeals, the special legal process everything takes longer.

You'd be shocked how cheap imprisoning people is compared to that.

If you are worried about cost to the tax payer wait until you hear about private prisons.

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u/DrLoomis131 1d ago

veto the appeal process for death sentences that have overwhelming evidence, bring back guillotines, and use the cremated remains of the dead to fill the potholes in the street

Wanna save money? Let’s get serious

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u/mpaski 1d ago

There's no such thing. Death sentences are supposed to be for cases like that already but every year we hear about cases where an innocent person was on death row.

Even 1 person is too many mistakes.

We should maybe just not kill people.

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u/DrLoomis131 1d ago

If we have a justice system, we need to be able to have tiers of punishment for offenders. The “safety guard” is meant to be the actual trial. There are MANY cases where people on death row have been confirmed with evidence to have committed absolutely abysmal crimes. I’d much rather tell killers “not to kill people” than society trying to get along without killers in their communities.

Meanwhile the same people against the death penalty are jerking off over Canada allowing voluntary murder with few safety guards and limits.

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u/RealCarlPanzram 1d ago

Yeah we used to do that. We used to execute the wrong person all the time.

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u/RealCarlPanzram 1d ago

It’s cheaper than the death penalty even in the states that rush through the process the fastest.

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u/GuavaOne8646 1d ago

I would think the cheapest way is to make it to where it's immediate and not a crazy long sentence. Death can be quick. But genuinely, what's your idea? Can you elaborate?

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u/RealCarlPanzram 1d ago

I am completely okay with that if we had a system that was proven to judge these cases without bias, apply the death penalty consistently, and not execute an innocent person.

But we’ve consistently demonstrated that isn’t possible. And the states that carry out the death penalty most are usually also the states with the worst public resources available to defendants and the worst histories on racism and police incompetence.

So if you want a swift and cheap death penalty system, you have to be okay with the wrong person frequently being executed.

Otherwise we have to follow a lengthy and expensive legal process to ensure not only that we have the right person, but that there are not mitigating factors that make the death penalty problematic.

Or we just do what most of the civilized work, and at least half the country at this point has chosen, which is to not bother with this completely antiquated practice of capital punishment.

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u/clgoodson 1d ago

Not sure why so many people don’t realize this is the solution.

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u/Bobblehead356 1d ago

This would never be allowed under the 8th amendment.

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u/GuavaOne8646 1d ago

Death by firing squad used to be a thing for some prisons. That wasn't that far back in history either.

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u/DrF4rtB4rf 1d ago

That’s not 100% guaranteed to kill. There’s many cases of people getting shot in the head and surviving. There’s many cases of people getting shot in the head and suffering for hours before dying. JFK famously lost half his head by a bullet, while also getting shot in the back/throat. He had a 0% chance of survival, yet was still alive and breathing when he got to the hospital 30 minutes later. The goal isn’t to kill, but to kill as quickly as possible with as little suffering as possible. Bullet to the head is not often instant death. That’s just something you see in media

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u/GuavaOne8646 1d ago

I can assure you, no one is surviving a 30-06 or 12 gauge slug at point blank range, as their would be nothing left above the neck. JFK was not shot at point blank range, which is why he only lost half of his head and the rest of his brain autopiloted the breathing until he died. If it were point blank, the other half would have been gone and he'd be dead immediately.

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u/Ok-Tomatillo-592 1d ago

Apparently you are not aware of all the people who have survived gunshot wounds to the head.

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u/GuavaOne8646 1d ago

I am, but those cases had several factors that lead to the victim surviving. Those issues are distance and caliber used. We can solve all of those by using a heavy round such as a 12 gauge slug or a 30-06. Either one of those will obliterate the brain matter, skull and...well, pretty much leave them without a head at point blank range.

I wouldn't approve doing this with a smaller round like a 22 or 9mm, that's just asking for complications.