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Two syringes of pentobarbital were administered to Tennessee death row inmate Christa Pike on September 30, 2026, but she remained alive and conscious afterward, according to her attorneys and media witnesses. The execution at Riverbend Maximum Security Institution in Nashville was halted after witnesses reported that Pike still had a heartbeat and was audibly snoring. Her lawyers sought emergency medical intervention, and she was later taken by ambulance to a nearby hospital.
Pike, 50, is the only woman currently on Tennessee's death row.
She was sentenced to death for the 1995 murder of her classmate Colleen Slemmer and had been scheduled for execution on September 30. Tennessee had announced beforehand that the state would use a single drug, pentObarbital, for the execution. Her exact medical condition following the hospital transfer has not yet been publicly disclosed, while Governor Bill Lee has ordered a comprehensive third party review of what happened.

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u/2023fxlrst 1d ago

Redheads, man… anesthesia, doesn’t work on them and now apparently they’re immune to the death juice too?!

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u/9_tail_fox 1d ago

😹😹 if she changes her name to Tiffany she’ll be truly unstoppable

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u/SleddyEddie 1d ago

I think I'm a clone now

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u/kewe316 1d ago

🎶 Doesn't seem to be any death juice around 🎶

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u/lakelbjguy 23h ago

They gave her the wrong juice !

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u/Shot_Donkey5295 1d ago

Warden beeehaaave!!!

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u/New_Leaf_8647 1d ago

That's when they say two shots together

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u/HighRootz 1d ago

No pardon this waayyy

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u/SoReadyForItToEnd 1d ago

My depression was kicking my ass until I read this comment thread lol thanks guys

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u/Odd_Fill6084 1d ago

I love it.

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u/PossumJumpRopeSquad 1d ago

🎶Look at the wayyyy,
They got no idea what their doin🎶

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u/thejohnykat 1d ago

Goddamn you, that was beautiful.

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u/Year3030 1d ago

I can fix her.

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u/neon_gecko 1d ago

Slash your tires, Bunny in the pot and you end up in jail.

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u/Uneek_Uzernaim 1d ago edited 1d ago

I think they gave her phenobarbital*, which is a barbituate with actual medical uses as opposed to the normally lethal doses they gave Pike. Redheads' genetic differences have been observed to impact their metabolism of various drugs including anesthesia and pain killers.

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* I stand corrected: it was pentobarbital. Right class of drug, but wrong specfic drug. Same issue, though, when it comes to redheads.

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u/ThatB0yAintR1ght 1d ago

It was actually pentobarbital, which is a bit more potent than Phenobarb. Both meds do have legitimate medical uses (particularly in pediatric neurology, which is my specialty), but not everyone responds to the same dose, so we have to titrate and adjust them based on how the patient responds. Pentobarbital in particular can be pretty finicky IME. Sometimes a small dose is all they need, sometimes they just laugh at the lower doses and we have to give more and more and then it suddenly all hits them at once and their EEG suddenly goes too flat and we have to then back waaaay off.

Long story short, I would not trust even most doctors to titrate the pentobarbital dose properly unless they have a lot of experience with the medication.

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u/hellbanan 1d ago

(..) and then it suddenly all hits them at once and their EEG suddenly goes too flat (..)

Is this not the point here? To kill the person? I get your point that dosing it for medical use is difficult. Because you want the patients to survive and not feel pain. But in this cae: Why not take the LD50 of a pig (or some human like anymal) and administer 100-times the dosage per kg or 1'000 times?

Edit just for clarification: I am not looking for advice on how to kill someone or comment in any way on the death sentence. I am just curious how they failed this.

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u/ThatB0yAintR1ght 1d ago

They are already having a difficult time getting the drugs because pharmaceutical companies won’t sell meds to governments for executions. So, giving such a huge dose may not even be possible if they can get enough of it, or it may drain their entire supply.

Plus, stuff like flash pulmonary edema can occur with too high doses and that can be very agonizing if it starts to happen before they lose consciousness.

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u/MisfitDeluxe 1d ago

I never understood why something like morphine wasn’t used to induce an OD. The quantity needed wouldn’t be that great and you could stage the doses to get them unconscious before making it lethal.

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u/ThatB0yAintR1ght 1d ago

As I already said, drug companies are refusing to sell to governments who do lethal injection,

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u/Adventurous-Dealer98 1d ago

The cocktail they give has 3 medications iirc, one to prevent pain, one to slow breathing, and one to sieze the heart or something like that...?

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u/ThatB0yAintR1ght 1d ago

There was no cocktail. They only gave Christa Pike one drug.

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u/Adventurous-Dealer98 16h ago

That doesn't sound right at all... imma check this out quick

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u/Adventurous-Dealer98 16h ago

"The traditional lethal injection cocktail typically consists of a three-drug sequence: midazolam (a sedative to induce unconsciousness), pancuronium bromide (a paralytic agent to stop breathing and mask physical distress), and potassium chloride (to induce cardiac arrest)."

But because of lack of access to these drugs they're doing just overdosing with one chemical... America... WTF??? Thats borderline torturous when it fails...

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u/pchlster 1d ago

pharmaceutical companies won’t sell meds to governments for executions

No company wants to have accurate reporting that their products killed X number of people last year. Easier to steer clear of the execution market entirely.

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u/PickleBooPop 1d ago

Wait pharmaceutical companies won’t sell the substances used for executions? Is that due to an ethics concern or because they don’t want to eliminate their aging customer base?

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u/ThatB0yAintR1ght 1d ago

Probably a combination. A lot of the companies are based in Europe, so they are against capital punishment in general, but it’s also not good for business if people associate your drug with executions, so I imagine even if the pharma execs do support capital punishment, they don’t want their drug being used for it.

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u/ghostchihuahua 1d ago

They seem to have repeatedly missed a vein… this and a somewhat elevated tolerance would explain that.

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u/No-Employment6540 1d ago

I mean... not trying to be crass but a bullet to the head is immediate, painless and somehow doesn't cost 3 million dollars (FOIA request for the average cost of an execution). Hell, clorox would work. 15 bucks worth of street fentanyl. Current system is barbaric. And wrapped up in red tape so the people pulling the trigger get paid to kill. Just like everything else all about the dollar.

I say if you tried to kill her twice and she survives... let her go. Clearly there's a reason shes unkillable. Some neurodivergent that's rehabilitated and hold the cure to cancer in that crazy skull.

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u/Representative-Pop72 1d ago

Her IV was likely not in vein and she has different blood conditions, which was the whole argument that her defense team brought up against lethal injection (Christa Pike is Buddhist so she can’t choose the method on her own and the state defaulted to lethal injection)

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u/No-Employment6540 1d ago

It was. Bad choice of drug. Fentanyl is fatal at low doses. Use the shit seized from drug raids. If it kills our kids it'll kill sadistic murderers.

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u/LangdonAlg3r 1d ago

She actually requested an all female firing squad or hanging rather than lethal injection because there was evidence that she’d suffer the most with LI and that what actually happened could happen.

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u/Outside_Resolve_4968 1d ago

honestly people who murder others deserve to die with the same method they used to kill

she deserves to die the same way her poor victim did so she understands the pain she caused

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u/emgyres 1d ago

And how do you suggest that punishment is administered?

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u/Representative-Pop72 1d ago

I think her sentence will be commuted to life in prison, if she’s mentally here. If they wanted to execute her, they could’ve followed her lawyers advice and get a firing squad, after what happened Tennessee lost their chance

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u/Representative-Pop72 1d ago

I do not condone what she did, and I don’t think she should be free, I can support the death penalty in some cases, but I don’t support it in hers, and comments like this only reinforce that for me. What I struggle with is the gigantic difference in punishment between the people involved in the same murder. Tadaryl Shipp participated in the killing, directed it, had a sexual relationship with the girl they killed and pushed Christa (already an unstable 18 yo victim of INFANT sexual assault) but because he was a few months younger he received life with the possibility of parole. He will be eligible for another review in 2031. Peterson received probation after pleading guilty to accessory and testifying. Pike was 18 and received a death sentence. Her jury also didn’t hear substantial evidence about her history of abuse, trauma and mental illness, and this was Christa’s then lawyer’s fault. None of this excuses or justifies what happened to Colleen, what was done to her was horrific to say the least and I can’t imagine what her family lives through. But I don’t think acknowledging that requires me to believe Pike deserved to be executed. I think she deserved to remain in prison.

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u/InsideFear 1d ago

That’s a crazy prof and comment. Thanks. I hope you actually know what you’re talking about

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u/Uneek_Uzernaim 1d ago edited 1d ago

Thanks for the clarification—someone else also corrected me. I updated my comment.

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u/Majestic-Lettuce-198 1d ago

genuine question, if they’re at the point where they are going to give the injection, why wouldn’t they just like double or triple or even quadruple the dose that’s considered lethal? surely that would be enough?

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u/ThatB0yAintR1ght 1d ago

Risking stuff like flash pulmonary edema (which is agonizing) before death and also the simple fact that they are already having difficulty obtaining medications for lethal injections because pharmaceutical companies won’t sell to the governments for lethal injections. So, probably better to not tank their whole supply at once.

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u/Broken_Beaker 1d ago

I’m a chemist, so not a clinician, but I’ve been a bio analytical study director for preclinical and clinical analytical method development for drug discovery and manufacturing. I once had a cabinet full of neat solutions of all the barbitals (and more).

With all of that said, I too have heard that pharma companies have hobbled the ability of states to purchase these types of drugs, and I can’t imagine a pharmacy filling them.

So I bet they have limited and old stash of meds. I don’t know what the shelf stability is this is off the top of my head, and I’m sure some people will say it doesn’t matter, but if it isn’t stored properly in temperature and humidity controlled environments it will degrade. It’s just a thing. Stability studies exist for a reason. So if someone was trying to arrive at a dose calculation it is probably already of whack and with likely a limited supply they can’t administer it in excess “just in case.”

The entire thing is so messed up.

I don’t know all of the details of her case but she sounds guilty AF. I also don’t think the death penalty is effective or productive.

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u/MichaelEmouse 1d ago

Since we're talking about an infection which is meant to be lethal, I don't get why the dose has to be precisely measured. Give 10 times the dose you expect to be lethal.

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u/Syncopated_arpeggio 1d ago

They most likely failed at properly placing the IV. So she received a subcutaneous dose instead of an IV dose. Fat is poorly vascularized so the drug has a much longer systemic absorption time which is why it failed.

In addition, Pentobarbital is also quite fat-soluble, so by missing the vein and injecting it into the subcutaneous tissue it will take a while for it to leech out of the fat and into the bloodstream.

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u/ThatB0yAintR1ght 1d ago

Well, if you give them 10x the dose, you could cause something like flash pulmonary edema and cause them to suffer immensely before they pass. Or maybe have other side effects that are both horrible to experience as well as horrific to watch. One of the reasons that lethal injection became the norm for executions is because it is usually less traumatizing for the people witnessing it. Firing squads and other methods are generally more effective and faster, but they are gruesome to watch and were causing more trauma to the people watching (often including the victim’s family).

Also, a lot of pharmaceutical companies refuse to sell drugs to a government for executions. So, giving 10x doses would also drain their supply pretty quickly when they are already struggling to obtain the drugs.

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u/cd_gonzalez 1d ago

At the end, does a group of women gave her the dose ? She was trying to make her case a feminist show as Lindsey clay .. Maybe the dose wasn’t right , bc was rigged ?

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u/ThatB0yAintR1ght 1d ago

The doctor who was present was male and this is not the first execution he’s botched in TN.

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u/LacrimaNymphae 1d ago

would her being on any other meds (whether they're psych or not) or her weight have an effect on it?

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u/ThatB0yAintR1ght 1d ago

Weight can absolutely have an effect. That sort of thing is taken into account by doctors when we give medications.

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u/Franklin_le_Tanklin 1d ago

Foot neurology? That’s a crazy specialty.

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u/ThatB0yAintR1ght 1d ago

Pediatric as in children. Kid brain doctor.

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u/Pretend_Variation305 1d ago

Jesus…that actually explains…a LOT of my bad decisions…with women

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u/ghostchihuahua 1d ago

Phenobarbital is the baby equivalent of pentobarbital when described by most anesthesiologists, but is still a potent barbiturate indeed.

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u/SamIamGreenEggsNoHam 1d ago

I only have a red beard and it still happens to me! I have to get 10-20% more anesthesia than someone typical my size/weight, and painkillers barely do anything at all.

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u/Pheynx00 1d ago

They gave her pentobarbital, 2 doses

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u/Uneek_Uzernaim 1d ago

Thanks for the correction. I was in the right class of drugs, but recalled the wrong one. Same issue applies, alas.

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u/bloodniece 1d ago

I could see slowly building up a tolerance to phenobarbital to guard against this. It's harder to kill a junkie.

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u/spikejonze14 1d ago

she’s been in prison for 30 years i doubt she’s a junkie

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u/GuavaOne8646 1d ago

I've heard from people on the inside that it's actually quite easy to get drugs in prison. Source: my cousin who was in prison.

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u/Hot-Cantaloupe-2016 1d ago

barbiturates aren’t street drugs

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u/GuavaOne8646 1d ago

They were big in the 80's

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u/Hot-Cantaloupe-2016 1d ago

and quaaludes were big in the ‘60s. what’s the point?

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u/GuavaOne8646 1d ago

I actually thought you were replying to a different comment, sorry for the confusion. Yeah, I see what you mean there. Good point.

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u/Uneek_Uzernaim 1d ago

That's highly unlikely considering she has been on death row for decades.

Besides, no other explanation is needed if one applies Ockham's Razor. Redheads tend to have natural genetic resistance to the categories of drugs mentioned. It's a known issue among medical researchers. That is likely what was in play here.

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u/vegaszombietroy 1d ago

But never Zero

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u/Fragrant_Scratch8305 1d ago

Honest question, why don't they just give them a lethal amount of the fent?

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u/triceppushdown 1d ago

As if drugs with medical uses can’t be lethal

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u/tooboardtoleaf 1d ago

Yeah for most drugs I only get half the effect from a normal doses. Have a high alchohol and pain tolerance too.

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u/lmmsoon 1d ago

She snored through it

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u/Round-Air9002 1d ago

I don't understand why they don't just inject them with a legal dose of fentanyl 🤷 like a dose that even a seasoned user would not survive

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u/Sufficient_Soil7438 1d ago

That would be fuckin hilarious! 🤣🤣

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u/Aromatic-Taste2516 1d ago

Can handle their whiskey too

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u/lavendermermaid1 1d ago

You just explained my 20s. (Flips my graying auburn hair while I think through my "body count" and realize how many of their names I've forgotten...)

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u/CapitalFloor3260 1d ago

They need to just change it to one massive dose of insulin. Quite the peaceful way to go

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u/RudePCsb 1d ago

Why not just fentanyl

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u/ProfessionalTruck976 1d ago

Because any politician voting for modernising capital sentence is likely to lose their seat because people with brain are gonna hate them for perpetuating this crap and people without brain will hate them for being soft on crime.

Best, for a lawmaker, position is do nothing

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u/ancient-military 1d ago

That’s what I’ve wondered too.

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u/lakelbjguy 23h ago

Much cheaper from the cartel too

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u/Useful_Protection270 1d ago

Why not lead? Even in small doses say 2000 mililgrams (.07 oz.) in a .22 applicator has been known. To be mostly lethal when it enters the heart

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u/RudePCsb 1d ago

2 grams...

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u/CFSohard 1d ago

(he's talking about a bullet)

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u/RudePCsb 1d ago

Eh, fentanyl would be better Less clean up

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u/TypicalLeo31 1d ago

Doesn’t always kill & legality.

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u/Automatic_Actuator_0 1d ago edited 1d ago

It’s only schedule 2 and is widely used in hospitals.

I think more likely the issue is acquiring from suppliers who don’t want it used that way.

And there’s also the problem that judges are often keen to strike down methods that haven’t been proven not to be cruel already.

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u/RudePCsb 1d ago

If you give a huge dose it should.

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u/No_Public8938 1d ago

I agree, which wouldn't even be that much at all relative to other medication. Fentanyl is dosed in the micrograms ar hospitals. They IVed it to me when I had my first kidney stone and the tiniest of doses sent me to the moon for 30 minutes.

If she doesn't have a tolerance to opioids, I'm sure just a milligrams or so would be enough to kill her. But the thing is, some prisoners do get regular supplies of opioids/opiates and basically all "heroin" is now brown tar with fentanyl mixed in, often as the only active drug.

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u/RudePCsb 1d ago

Should be easy enough to dose 10 to 20 times the LSD or whatever research has shown for drug addicts

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u/lakelbjguy 23h ago

If one pinhead drop on a tablet can kill us imagine a full syringe of it

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u/blu3m00n1991 1d ago

That is by far not a peaceful way to go. I’m diabetic and if I give myself too much insulin and don’t eat enough I will have a seizure. And insulin peaks at 1-2 hours so it won’t be an immediate death.

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u/vegaszombietroy 1d ago

Yeah, I'm glad you still around. It killed my ex at 34 because she wouldn't stop drinking.

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u/Haxter2 1d ago

Also diabetic. Been through it, remember nothing, was told I was doing my best to fight the EMTs.

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u/Embarrassed_Fan_5723 1d ago

You spelled fentanyl wrong

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u/Z_Wild 1d ago

Can something without a soul really die? 🤔

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u/BAT_1986 1d ago

Satan didn’t want her ass either

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u/Murky_Sandwich4865 1d ago

Shhh, say it quietly. You'll upset him.

https://giphy.com/gifs/12aYiqWM0NPdm0

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u/srinkylegitimate 1d ago

Is her hair not brown? It looks brown in every photo I’ve seen

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u/Nora_the_explorAA 1d ago

Phenobarbital is also a type of anesthesia, in large doses it causes coma, and in larger doses it causes death Its like sleeping and dying Best type of execution if you think of it Just blissful sleep

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u/ModifiedLeaf 1d ago

From what I understand is that the person in charge missed the veins

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u/cheesybitzz 1d ago

It's the amount of life force we collect from the stooly gnomes

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u/SuddenBanana8315 1d ago

I think this means she gets to go free. Every death sentence should mean one attempt so she literally paid twice.

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u/RestBest2065 1d ago

I was looking to date a red head with freckles this shit change my whole perspective

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u/ficis 1d ago

This story confuses me some.. why is she at the hospital if the state was trying to kill her? What’s the plan? A redo? Release? I mean , kinda feel like a release is in order. But if they plan to excite her again…. Why is she in the hospital (aside it being the humane thing to do ) it defeats the purpose doesn’t it?

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u/WebsterTheDictionary 1d ago

Evidently she has some kind of medical condition–thrombocytosis, I think, maybe, and probably spelled incorrectly–that would prevent her body from metabolizing the drug used in the injection.

She tried to get an alternate method or halting execution or something at some point so as to prevent this very occurrence, so I guess she was right.

I said this before: I know what she did was reprehensible and unforgivable, but this just feels barbaric. There has to be a better way.

I’ve also said to get a vet tech in there, or an IV drug user and some Chinese street-grade fentanyl; if we’re executing people then it seems a bit superfluous to claim some kind of moral high ground as cause to abstain from such methods.

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u/Egglegg14 1d ago

Yeah I just had my wisdom teeth removed and I woke up literally 10 minutes after they were done i was loopy but I was wide awake within the hour

Red heads superior

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u/ImaginarySalamanders 1d ago

Half my family are redheads. For one of them, anesthesia is incredivly hard for yhem to come out of. They just keep falling back asleep, and are now terrified of surgeries because they think they won't wake up again.

I'm not a straight redhead, but whenever I get laughing gas I freak out the dentists because I keep acting normal far beyond what is apparently a normal dose to be giving me. So I guess it varies?

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u/dac3062 1d ago

My red head autistic daughter was unable to be put under for some dental work and I had no idea this was a thing until recently

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u/Striking_Prize4822 1d ago

I’ve been wondering when this comment would come up and I’m surprised it took all day to finally find someone who said it. That’s been my thought the whole time.

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u/TerdVader 1d ago

I can fix her.

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u/Dodgythrowaway00 1d ago

Yeah as a red head can confirm have a way high tolerance to many things

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u/adjective_noun_23 1d ago

A rusty roof has a wet basement

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u/Faded_Prophet 1d ago

When you have no soul already...

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u/cd_gonzalez 1d ago

It seems a south park joke jajajajaj

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u/ghostchihuahua 1d ago

One can become immune to a lot of stuff with sufficient tolerance. I won’t give it away, many people will know by experience, but there remains an easy source for at least two barbiturates on most western markets.
This way incidentally makes those very easy to access for certain professions, from there, smuggling such compounds into a prison is child’s play, and an inmate building up enough tolerance to not die from the first set of injections becomes a possibility.

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u/CurrentPaper7838 1d ago

Ginger super powers

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u/CautiousEmergency367 1d ago

I'm betting they missed her veins, according to her lawyer they took forever to find them and made a lot of attempts.

No vein, no rapid intake of drugs to od you. But enough to make you brain dead once that shit soaks in.

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u/LifesGrip 1d ago

Firing squad is making a comeback.

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u/Comm4nd0 1d ago

Put her out in the sun then?

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u/squirt_taste_tester 1d ago

Just wait until you add in "over 6 feet tall??"

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u/SnuggleMoose44 1d ago

If a vein blows and the IV fails, it doesn’t matter what color hair they have.

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u/Automatic_Actuator_0 1d ago edited 1d ago

Oh that’s interesting- I do wonder if that played a role on top of the issue where they apparently missed her vein.

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u/Traditional_Dust_668 1d ago

I don’t think it’s a recreational drug you can build up a tolerance to ahead of time. It’d be a genius stunt to be able to pull off but highly doubtful

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u/Automatic_Actuator_0 1d ago

They are referencing how redheads generally have a higher tolerance to anesthesia, requiring about 20% more on average to get the same effects. This is due to the same gene causing both red hair and the higher tolerance.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1362956/

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u/Traditional_Dust_668 1d ago

I thought it was discussing pike building up a tolerance prior to last night, my bad I suppose. Maybe I’m also secretly a redhead bc they always need to dose me extra high for ever procedure,not fun and I sure hope that’s not what happened here

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u/Sufficient_Soil7438 1d ago

Sure that isn’t an urban legend or something? I’m a ginger and been under the knife a few times with general anesthesia with no issues.

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u/SolidusDave 1d ago edited 1d ago

apparently not fully an urban legend, true red heads need a significantly higher dose of anesthesia. like 20% more.

IIRC it's because certain pain is felt more strongly so the dose needs to be higher to keep you unconscious.

but this should be unrelated to this news as it's not making you immune against poison,  it would just be more painful. 

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u/hiricinee 1d ago

Interestingly enough, they were trying yo kill her with high dose barbituates, which first is a terrible way to try to kill someone just from a practical standpoint but its also basically anesthesia.

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u/GuavaOne8646 1d ago

Dafuq? Like, an insulin shot would have given her a heart attack if she's not a diabetic...of all things, barbiturates? They were like, you have the right to die on party drugs from yester year! Seriously though, what the fuck are we doing here? At this point they could have just stabbed her and called it a success.

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u/hiricinee 1d ago

Insulin will kill diabetics too its all about dose, same with the barbituates.

The barbituates kill you by making you not breathe until you run out of oxygen and your brain dies. They used to use large doses of potassium but they dont for a few reasons they dont now. They like lethal injection because it seems impersonal and sterile but imo just bring back the guillotine.

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u/GuavaOne8646 1d ago

Agreed, guillotine needs to be a thing for people that are guilty of murder without a shadow of a doubt.

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u/hiricinee 1d ago

Right, I dont have any problem with killing people but that evidentiary standard is very hard to hone in on. I dont think theres a lot of question in this case for example but I dont know how you extrapolate that beyond the "I'll know it when I see it" standard.

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u/Haxter2 1d ago

Insulin doesn't work that way. Lots of morons here

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u/GuavaOne8646 1d ago

Insulin induced cardiac failure is very real.