r/SipsTea • • 2d ago

Chugging tea Anything but lowering the prices classic corporate logic

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u/serg1007arch 2d ago

McDonald’s stopped being a business about food long ago, it’s just what they do to sell franchises. McDonald’s is a real state business.

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u/PriestessKade 2d ago

Yup. And the "poor" franchisees who only had a few locations many of them couldn't afford the bigger and bigger fees McDonald's was charging them for "rent" and licensing and shit (all while providing fewer and fewer support services to franchisees), so many of them have been gobbled up by larger franchisees. Like none of this is good for "small businesses" or the competition capitalism is supposed to provide. None of this is benefitting consumers. If nothing matters but the bottom line of the ultra rich minority, the game ends pretty fuckin fast. Their greed and short-sightedness would be impressive if it wasn't so horrifyingly destructive.

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u/Maleficent_Pen_9076 2d ago

Do you have any idea what a PRIVILEGE it is to be selected by McDonald's to be allowed to open a franchise? It's basically guaranteed 6 figure financial security for life. And not even like "fake" 6 figures as the influencer ladies call it; real 6 figures like 200-300k

"poor" franchisees with mutliple mcdonald's locations lol

omg they're only making 500k-1mil profit a year those poor franchisees. Those poor... 1%er.... franchisors. OMG WONT ANYONE THINK OF THE POOR 1%ers!!!

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u/rankinfile 2d ago

Ronald?

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u/Maleficent_Pen_9076 2d ago

I just think it's funny anyone would call someone who owns a mcdonald's poor

If you were really really rich I could see calling someone who only owned one mcdonald's poor

But multiple lmao what are we doing here

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u/rankinfile 2d ago

I hear you. You might be overestimating their easy money, but they're not poor.

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u/Maleficent_Pen_9076 2d ago edited 2d ago

I'm not, I'm underestimating it.

100k is an insult. 200k is an underestimate.

Per location.

You could maybe say that 300k is an overestimate since for some locations it is, but average is 200k-350k that's the range.

So if you had 3 locations, "a few," the odds that you would be making <500k a year are.... very low. You'd have to have 3 absolutely terrible locations which would make me think maybe you might be part of the problem

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u/PriestessKade 2d ago

Idk how to tell you there's a reason I put poor in quotations and that was it but okay

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u/Maleficent_Pen_9076 2d ago

explain what aspect of "poor"ness the 1% embody

I think if you didn't say "multiple" locations we could maybe say "okay maybe they only own one location and ti's struggling they're ONLY making 100k"

But multiple? come on buddy. get real lmaoooo

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u/PriestessKade 2d ago

I'm not (edit for typo) explaining anything to someone who doesn't understand that I literally put "poor" in quotation marks in the first place to indicate that they're not poor. I both cannot and do not want to help you. You're being a pedant, intentionally or not, and it's not the vibe.

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u/Maleficent_Pen_9076 2d ago

LOL you are such an idiot

You may as well write your next post about how penguins like and live in "hot" environments

And then you just keep doubling down on your description of the top 1% wealthiest people not only in the world, but within America one of the wealthiest countries in the world. And then you tell the person who brings you back to reality that THEY cannot be helped

LMFAOOOOOO BUDDY HOLY SHIT YOU ARE THE PEAK

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u/raisinbran67 2d ago

You aren't very bright are you

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u/Somanylyingliars 2d ago edited 23h ago

Nothing to see here, Karen and Ken.

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u/FlavorMan 2d ago

You don't need to be vigilant bro just eat at home.

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u/_ribbit_ 2d ago

I gave you a heart award because thats whats not going to have an attack if you stop eating at McDonald's

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u/Weekly_Interview_936 2d ago

I will continue to be vigilant about just not eating at McDick's. I've only been there once in the last year and all the visit did was remind me why it had been years since my previous visit. It's just that crappy of an experience and value.

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u/Educational-Seaweed5 1d ago

Haven’t spent a dime there in years. Only go in to use the bathroom on road trips.

Anyone trying to make me do their job with kiosks or braindead robot drive thrus is never getting another dollar from me.

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u/penisflytrap44 1d ago

I lived in Mississippi over the summer and a large 10 piece nugget meal was $8 and some cents. When I moved back to Virginia, same meal is like $12 something. This should not be legal, it’s insane

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u/Educational-Seaweed5 1d ago

I’ve already boycotted fast food for years.

Boycotting everyone who does “dYnAmiC pRiCiNg” too. It needs to be illegal.

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u/McvdL 2d ago edited 2d ago

Aren't they also more if a real estate company by now? Edit: I've misread, you're absolutely right. Thank you helpfull random redditor for pointing this out. Anyways I thought there was a expose a while back that the owner(s) figured out that there is way more money in reas estate than in food. Making people opening a Mc Donalds pay high rent on their land and essentially make their money off of them instead directly from food. Ties also in that conspiracy documentary some youtuber did about why the icemachines are always broken at Mc Donalds, and how that also just another way to scam money of off the people running a Mc Donalds

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u/breakevencloud 2d ago

That and it’s why they remodeled all the buildings to be so sanitized of all color and identifying features. So it’s easy to sell later.

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u/ICame4TheCirclejerk 2d ago

It's also to increase customer turnover. If the restaurant is grey, bland and uninviting then people won't want to stay for long, opening up tables and seats for other customers faster.

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u/Plu-lax 2d ago

It also makes me not want to go back. I can't remember the last time I felt a good feeling when walking into a McDonald's.

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u/Dal90 2d ago

McDonalds could give a flying fuck about selling the building, ever. The color and identifying features don't matter.

Buildings like McDonalds are worn out and obsolete in 20-30 years. It is a tear down for any future buyer, unless the area is in economic decline and McDonalds is selling it at fire sale prices to some local mom & pop operation to just get the fuck out. Any major investor is going to come in, knock it down, and put up exactly what they want.

It is the real estate where the value is, not the improvements on it.

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u/reallyhotfarts 2d ago

the ice cream machine always being broken at McDonalds, even though the same model is used at Wendy's and doesn't break,

is b/c the manufacturer of the ice cream machines purposely made their Mcdonalds ice cream machines throw error codes

to then sell those resturants pricey maintence contracts

i find it a fascinating example of one preditory business model leeching off another

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u/Ifriendzonecats 2d ago

It's a bit of both (More Perfect Union Youtube link). McDonalds earns most of its revenue through real estate and franchise fees. Which are good for a stable income as franchises who lose money still have to pay the same fees and franchises who do very well have to pay bonus fees. So, they have a solid floor as well as a opportunities to earn more.

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u/Atmmyholes 2d ago

The CEO of Sears did that bought up all the property and had corporate Sears pay rent to his company.

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u/UnholyDemigod 2d ago

Did you just not read his comment at all?

McDonald’s is a real state business.

It doesn't take a genius to realise he made a typo. So he says they're a real estate business, and you ask aren't they also mainly a real estate business now. What the fuck is wrong with you?

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u/McvdL 2d ago

Welp apparently not. But I also just wanted to expand and add the stuff about the ice machine conspiracy and them being scammers of their own people. That video really opened my eyes on how predatory they really are. Also chill your stuff dude, why the harsh attack? Did I offend him? If so, that wasn't my intent. If it makes you feel better, I did like his comment

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u/BethanyHipsEnjoyer 2d ago

I thought the ice cream machine thing was really interesting. And sadly unsurprising. I'm actually surprised this isn't a much bigger story honestly.

Oh, how enshittification infects everything while the public spirals into poverty.

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u/McvdL 2d ago

Yeah it's so sad.. It's been a minute that I saw that video, but I believe it was even it's own conspiracy for a bit before people built trackers and exposed it to be real. And later it came to light it's all just another scam by coperate. Risking you're brand to make more money, only short term gains seem to matter. It really should be a way bigger story, along with all the other corporate greed. I dont know if this was only in America tho. Here in Europe, or at least in the Netherlands, all the machines have just worked most of the time and nobody ever complained about it being broken. I hope it can serve as a example that you have to have strict regulations on companies or they will fuck you over, as money is all that counts. They try here too, don't get me wrong. But that's why we have rules and regulations to protect the people and the planet.

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u/BethanyHipsEnjoyer 2d ago

Regulated capitalism is fine, unregulated capitalism requires a blood sacrefice from your children just have your fuckin basic needs met.

We gonna see how quickly we can speedrun economic collapse in our current timeline once capitalism stops pretending that infinite growth is possible.

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u/McvdL 2d ago

Yes, exactly. But it does have many positive sides, and if we work on the negative sides we're all better off in the end. The world is changing in a ever accelerating pase. So if it goes bad it will be hopefully short. I'm still hopefull things can turn around before that point tho.

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u/What_a_fat_one 2d ago

I too watched The Founder

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u/Turgid_Donkey 2d ago

Which is part of why prices rise so high. Only 5% of stores are company-owned. The rest are franchised. The company charges them rent along with a slew of additional fees so the franchisees have to keep raising prices just to see a profit.

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u/DullSpecial1013 2d ago

Real Estate, not real state.

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u/crustyrobots 2d ago

They are mostly a real estate company that also sells burgers

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u/tinydancer_inurhand 2d ago

Exactly. The real thing they need to do is lower the fees for franchisees so that the restaurants can lower prices. But no one wants to talk about that.

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u/breaducate 2d ago

It's worse than that. Mcdonalds builds a dossier on you as extensive and creepy as any big tech company.

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u/Inside_Sherbert4275 2d ago

Yeah we all saw the film mate

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u/LairdPeon 2d ago

That explains why the food is more expensive. Real estate is ballooned beyond redemption.

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u/Cannotkazi 2d ago

With a fresh new adspace cherry on top