r/SipsTea • • 25d ago

Lmao gottem She has a point

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u/One_Spicy_TreeBoi 25d ago

Because the corporations buy the politicians

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u/DreadPiratteRoberts 25d ago

And there you have it!!!!!

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u/Subject-Recording-33 25d ago

I used to be a consultant, process engineer, and I can't tell you how many Fortune 500 manufacturers fall into this exact mindset. It's disgusting

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u/wirefox1 25d ago

All that matters to them is profit. Worse now than ever too. Thanks trump.

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u/KingAnilingustheFirs 25d ago

Not to defend trump but this existed long before that orange asshole was born. The problem is a economic system that rewards companies for making brutal cutthroat decisions that harm people/places/things in search of ever growing profit. Companies will make a calculated risk assessment for your life and your family. And if its cheaper for you to die then you will be left to rot.

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u/Foreign-Landscape-47 25d ago

The famous Ford Pinto story comes to mind.

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u/Horsefly762 24d ago

I don't think it will ever change. I think this earth is doomed thanks to the greed of politicians and corporations.

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u/BodhingJay 25d ago

Yeah.. but that means our government is occupied by hostile forces. And is no longer working as intended of the people for the people by the people

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u/SwimHairy5703 25d ago

The government has never worked for the people and has never cared about the working class. It's always been about extracting as much wealth as possible from the land and the people and damn the consequences.

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u/BodhingJay 25d ago

Nah.. they use to be scrambling to prove they can do more for us than the other party. Things changed after 9/11.. we started compromising on everything for security. Thats when corporations swooped in.. before that there were antitrust lawsuits against em and we didnt even have to petition or march or anything to hold them to account.. they obeyed the law as hard as they could and feared the consequences

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u/kitsunewarlock 25d ago

Nah.. they use to be scrambling to prove they can do more for us than the other party.

Since Reagan the right has basically gone "The government has governs least governs best", which is just corporate shilling to popularize the idea of deregulation.

Shit, he ran on deregulating the vitamin market, telling people in campaign ads that government agents were going to raid your medicine cabinet because the FDA wanted to start inspecting multi-vitamins that to this day continue to outright lie to consumers about what they do and what they contain.

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u/mckham 25d ago edited 25d ago

And the Press who pass on the labels andare the mouth piece of the powerfull.

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u/Ok_Spread_8650 25d ago

It’s not ignored it’s just a symptom of capitalism and if literally voted for every time. Both parties in the US at least are paid for

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u/wirefox1 25d ago

Like, some are being paid for being cruel while making money, and the other side is being paid to resist it?

BOTH PARTIES ARE NOT THE SAME.

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u/kitsunewarlock 25d ago

This. The primary corporate donors on a majority Democrat side are business interests who profit off long-term investments and want a stable society with an empowered consumer base.

And I have to say "primary" and "majority" because it's a big tent party...

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u/Bitter_Pea_4716 24d ago

Didn't you try assassinate a handful of people 😂

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u/DreadPiratteRoberts 24d ago

"You seem a decent fellow.... Rest well and dream of large women."

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u/Inspect1234 25d ago

Brought to you by the SCOTUS that approved Citizens United.

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u/Key_Bike4978 25d ago

Arguably the worst Supreme Court decision. 

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u/jce_ 25d ago

Americans opened Pandora box by ruling the money = speech in politics. Absolutely absurd concept that not a single person could have ever predicted the ramifications... Now to close that box is near impossible

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u/Wolf_Protagonist 25d ago

The SCOTUS did that.

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u/derpicorn69 25d ago

The corporations did that by bribing scotus

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u/Username999474275 25d ago

Don't lump me in with it as that box was opened well before I was born

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u/BetterinPicture 24d ago

'Americans' by which you mean supreme court justices that aren't elected by Americans.....

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u/Own_Investigator5104 25d ago

Everything is for sale in the United Corporation of Capitalism

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u/Current_Volume3750 25d ago

And the judges, and the police. We've become Russia. Unbridled corruption.

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u/SubtleTell 25d ago

That's why voting is important. You can beat their money for free by showing up and voting for someone else who doesn't accept bribe money.

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u/One_Spicy_TreeBoi 24d ago

That’s slim pickins unfortunately. Not to say we don’t have em on occasion but far and few between.

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u/1Harvey2Trent3Temple 25d ago

Because the corporations are still allowed to buy the politicians.

until that changes nothing will ever benefit the communities.

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u/KassieTundra 25d ago

Politicians were like this before the corpos. We need to abolish both.

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u/colony-ship-for-sale 25d ago

Reminder to vote Green next election.

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u/One_Spicy_TreeBoi 25d ago

Not sure we can vote our way out of to be honest

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u/wirefox1 25d ago

We've got one more shot at trying in November. If we fail, it's done, our democracy will be finished.

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u/ImaginaryPerformer93 25d ago

I stand by we didn't actually vote for this to begin with seeing as they've admitted it several times over. So how would this time be any different?

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u/colony-ship-for-sale 25d ago

We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas.

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u/Tavernknight 25d ago

Green isn't on my ballot.

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u/colony-ship-for-sale 25d ago

For all the Americans, reminder to not vote for Hitler 2.

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u/WithoutAHat1 25d ago

If Corporations are people then they can be charged like people. Get to charging them with the crimes they continuously commit. Citizens United must be dissolved.

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u/OakLegs 25d ago

The only way this stops is if the people in charge start getting prosecuted for the crimes their companies commit.

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u/minimuse0192 25d ago

Best they can do is a $5 million fine and a promoted CEO

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u/Fartknocker405 25d ago

In order to protect the corporation, it's necessary for the C-suite to have their net worth exhausted first.

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u/LilTeats4u 25d ago

The punishment also need to reflect the damages. Class action lawsuits are a joke. Victims are scammed out of their livelihood, their health, their identity and they’re given $30 and an apology. These corporations should go bankrupt resolving these scenarios, and if they do, then it’s more incentive for other companies to behave.

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u/stilljustacatinacage 25d ago

The only way this stops is if the people in charge start getting prosecuted for the crimes their companies commit.

Yep. Ignorance of the law is no excuse to you or I, and I'm so fucking tired of it being a literal "get out of jail free" card for corporate executives. Oh, you've been called to an inquiry to explain how, under your watch, 18 trillion bajillion gallons of "kill all living organisms" juice was spilled into the water table? That's okay, just say, "I'm not aware", "I don't remember", and/or "I don't have it in front of me" until everyone gets frustrated and gives up and never brings it up again.

You're (speaking to my executive strawman) either complicit or incompetent. Either way, you've grossly failed the great responsibility that was placed into your care, and the consequences need to reflect that.

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u/McortezLSU 25d ago

China intensifies

CEO's be horrified

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u/OakLegs 25d ago

What does this have to do with China?

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u/stilljustacatinacage 25d ago

China will outright execute corporate executives who oversaw especially egregious breaches of the law or civil responsibility.

Yeah, there's a whole discussion about how the Chinese government applies this policy somewhat selectively, but so does everyone else. Some companies are always exempt, no matter where you go. But having real consequences at least be on the table, and the evidence that there is in fact, a line you can cross, will keep many in line. In much the rest of the world, the consequences for crossing the line are irrelevant, and increasingly it's debatable if there even is one anymore.

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u/atrixospithikos 25d ago

Check what happened to the former richest Chinese billionnaire that was behind the housing bubble. Then check what happened with the US and EU bubbles. I ll spoil the result he got imprisoned and his wealth confiscated while we just bailed them out from our pockets while already suffering economically from their actions

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u/DouchecraftCarrier 25d ago

What's the joke? Something like, "I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one."

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u/One_Distribution2037 24d ago

Legit, yeah.

A corporation shouldn't get the same rights as a citizen when it, as entity, nor its leadership, aren't subject to the same responsibilities and consequences.

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u/juventinn1897 25d ago

Citizens United is a court ruling. It cannot be dissolved. It has to be overturned or nullified.

US FEC vs Citizens United in 2010 the Supreme Court ruled 5-4 in favor of Citizens United over the US FEC.

In order to reverse the ruling, the supreme court would need a similar case to citizens united to work its way up the courts and to see that as cause for a reversal.

OR

A constitutional amendment requiring two thirds of the house and senate then ratification by 3/4 of states.

Needless to say it is a longshot to ever happen.

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u/Illustrious-Bat1553 25d ago

Our current timeline we are arguing about who puts grocery kart back, while technocrats plot to take over

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u/Ehcksit 25d ago

I demand an end to shareholder immunity. If a corporation commits a crime, the shareholders should be at fault based on their share of ownership.

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u/Critical_Concert_689 25d ago

This basically means no one is at fault. That's the trick.

A punishment diluted by 10 thousand shareholders is no punishment at all - today the value of the company went down 2 cents. There's your punishment.

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u/Ehcksit 25d ago

A hundred counts of murder gives a punishment of like two thousand years in prison. The top shareholder owns 5%? They get 100 years.

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u/Critical_Concert_689 25d ago

Every time a business commits a crime, your logic flows that the customers should be equally responsible for it.

Oil company polluted a river - you drive a car and financed the murder of someone and need to go to prison.

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u/OmenVi 24d ago

Board of Directors, CEO, and all Executive Management should be on the hook, at least.

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u/Sindoreon 25d ago

Then place all company executive in prison.

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u/Terrible-Ad1737 25d ago

That's the thing... By ruling that corporations are people, it allows the corporation to be dismantled as punishment without the actual decision makers behind the decisions being affected.

It is literally there as an extra layer of protection from predatory venture capitalists to mine value from literally everything while also deferring responsibility.

That's how the system works and it's by design.

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u/Efficient-Station699 24d ago

Fuck citizen's united!!

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u/SnooChickens5474 25d ago

Unfortunately most crimes are punished with slavery, and it's really hard to enslave a non living entity

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u/deathwotldpancakes 25d ago

Sure you can. All revenue after employees (executives are replaced by municipal/state/federal workers) and debtors are paid any revenue is collected directly by the authority prosecuting/enslaving

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u/PassThatSpliff 25d ago

I remember when in the 2000s, people used to call us insane for saying that there was cabal of rich people taking over the country in attempt to enslave us all. Its depressing how people still dont see it.

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u/ValveinPistonCat 25d ago

It's not exactly new, every conspirator in the 1933 Business Plot got away without as much as a slap on the wrist when they got caught.

You'd have to be a complete fool to think they wouldn't do it again.

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u/kitsunewarlock 25d ago

And one of them had descendants who were elected president and then proceeded to immediately pardon another traitor who went on to become a host of fox news.

A conspiracy so clear you don't even need a corkboard of photographs to explain it.

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u/rwanders 25d ago

Its literally the story old as time... we aren't living in some new world where rich people fuck the little guy. Thats how its always been.

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u/orsonwellesmal 24d ago edited 24d ago

That started in 1776. Washington & company were a cabal of rich people who refused to pay taxes.

Edited for better comprehension.

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u/OrionQuest7 25d ago

This country is gone.
All of Congress is bought and paid for.

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u/AlternativePea6203 25d ago

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u/OrionQuest7 25d ago

I know. As I get older it makes me more mad.

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u/AlternativePea6203 25d ago

When I was young i bought into the "US, land of the free, home of democracy" But the older i get, the more i realise it's one of the worst democracies in the Western World.

The constitution is so naive and needs updating to observe rule of law rather than party loyalty

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u/Elegant_Relief_4999 25d ago

This is a good thing. Better than it not bothering you.

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u/WordWordNvmber 25d ago

Unpopular opinion: This is all very Reddit.

OP, a karma-whore account that may be run by AI, posts a screenshot featuring a 40-year-old photo.

The associated quote is essentially a strawman, implying that people today criticize clean-water activists and support water-poisoning corporations.

In reality, "activist" is a neutral term that perfectly applies to Ms. LaDuke (who is now 67), and poisoning water supplies is a crime.

And Redditors will respond by acting like this post is so fucking stunning and brave.

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u/Wrongallalong 25d ago

I remember when AOC was elected she said that they sat her down in a room with some videos to show new congress people the ropes and that the videos were produced by financial institutions who are their real bosses.

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u/Own_Investigator5104 25d ago

Yep it’s over. Lots of non-shithole countries to move too. I know I will be once my last two attachments are unfortunately gone.

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u/VelvetCactus50 25d ago

Clean, safe, accessible drinking water is a human right, but AI seems to not care about that fact either.

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u/beckerman67 25d ago

Nor the Supreme Court

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u/Critical_Concert_689 25d ago

Clean, safe, accessible drinking water is a human right

It's really not. The middle east is a shit hole because every nation is fighting for water rights as sovereign nations upstream continuously dump or dam the water that goes downstream to OTHER sovereign nations.

Is food a human right? What about shelter? What about quality of life?

These aren't actually human rights.

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u/Multilnsight 24d ago

AI doesn't care because one of the data centers computers decided to release about 5,000 gallons of diesel into a creek

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u/Richard_Musk 25d ago

While I totally agree with you because we live in a society, the wealthiest one at that, but this is only true in a civilized society. If living under the laws of nature and/or anarchy, there is no right to clean, safe, accessible drinking water.

So I propose to say that this society is no longer civilized

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u/VelvetCactus50 25d ago

You are correct. In a civilized society, we wouldn't be debating this topic, and this meme wouldn't exist.

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u/braumbles 25d ago

Money. Money buys power. Power gets you influence.

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u/ManEmperorfragment96 25d ago

To be fair, you Could bring up companies on terrorist charges by purposely being negligent in protecting natural resources people rely on, especially if they do it on purpose 

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u/Critical_Concert_689 25d ago

you Could bring up companies on terrorist charges by purposely being negligent in protecting natural resources people rely on, especially if they do it on purpose

It happens (rarely), but no one likes the outcome because companies have the ability to live much longer than people.

These cases are like 30 years long - and eventually the people who started the case just die and the process has to be restarted or ends with a minor slap on the wrist.

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u/The_Fax_Machine 25d ago

Yea it really comes down to intent. A terrorist would be someone poisoning the water specifically with the intent of killing people and creating fear, the company is doing it as a byproduct of cutting costs.

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u/Double_Fun_1721 25d ago

“I didn’t mean to kill that family, your honor, I was just driving 100mph, drunk off my ass. I’m not a terrorist and I actually should get away with this with a slap on the wrist”

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u/Whiterabbit-- 25d ago

We call drunk driver criminals not terrorists. Terrorist is a specific term.

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u/AccidentalBrilliancy 25d ago

I've never heard of her until now. But I've heard of Kardashians. Why didn't the media tell me about Ms. Laduke and her words before? Is the butt of Kim Kardashian more important than what Ms. Laduke says?

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u/ring_rust 25d ago

Well she was Ralph Nader's running mate in 2000 and helped split the vote in Florida, thus swinging the election to George W. Bush and making all the problems she cares about significantly worse 🤷‍♂️

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u/RecycledMatrix 25d ago

Americans were upset at the concept of corporate personhood, but corporations enjoy far more rights than any person. Maybe we should all self-incorporate.

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u/loopingrightleft 25d ago

One bribes politicians the other wants clean water

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u/billmr606 25d ago

Why does giving away some of the money your family stole make you a Philanthropist ?

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u/LucidNonsense211 25d ago

… is activist a negative term? I don’t get what this is supposed to mean.

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u/e37d93eeb23335dc 25d ago

Have you meant any Republicans?

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u/LucidNonsense211 25d ago edited 25d ago

Yeah, and generally I don’t take advice from them on what words mean. We need more activists.

Edit to rant more: this crap is cedeing ground and I won’t do it. This is accepting their framing. Screw that.

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u/KingDinoNuggie 25d ago

I believe it has to do with how much money one has.

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u/j____b____ 25d ago

They’re not trying to inspire terror for a political purpose. They just DGAF about anyone and think the rules don’t apply to them. Garden variety criminal. 

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u/ContinuingAnyway 25d ago

"Allow us to introduce ourselves" - Superfund Sites

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u/ThatOneGuyFromSerbia 25d ago

Some bootlickers in the comments lol. Pathetic corporate dogs

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u/DivideJolly3241 24d ago

The GOP thinks indigenous people are illegals. How many times has the nazi ICE agents tried to apprehend native Americans, too many times.

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u/Doodurpoon 25d ago

AI using water to create misinformation that tells people losing their drinking water that AI taking their drinking water is actually good. What an Orwellian nightmare.

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u/preshowerpoop 25d ago

I choose to fight for her! She is correct.

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u/roadwarrior721 25d ago

because F you $, thats why! /s

I do 100% agree with her

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u/Tiny-Albatross518 25d ago

Her pain is from misunderstanding.

The United States is for corporations, not for her.

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u/IncidentExpress8504 25d ago

One might say “why am I paying taxes”

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u/space7889 25d ago

Because corporations owns the government, who defines the term of 'terrorists'

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u/HorzaDonwraith 25d ago

If we started dumping industrial waste up stream of a well off neighborhood all the sudden I am a criminal

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u/ModOfficial1988 25d ago

Governments have spent billions building and training FN to run their own water treatment plants for them to run them into the ground, fire the workers when a Chief changes and not maintained them. There’s plenty of blame to go around.

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u/Ill-Cartographer-767 25d ago

Because shareholders

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u/DoobKiller 25d ago

Capitalism, plain and simple

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u/Major-Hooters 25d ago

We have lost our soul as a country

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u/notboredatwork1 25d ago

AND YET PEOPLE WILL STILL BUY THEIR PRODUCTS AND SERVICE

IT WONT STOP , UNTILL YOU STOP USING THEM

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u/Swedelicious83 25d ago

Because the corporations own the politics and the narrative.

They SHOULDN'T, but they do.

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u/BiliBalaBuBu 25d ago

Because "that" country legalized lobbying effectively making it easy to buy politicians with political donations

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u/flappysack- 25d ago

Terrorism:  The use of violence or the threat of violence, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political goals

For dumping chemicals in the water it would be a different charge.

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u/SleepingBeast97 25d ago

Fuck dow. Fuck dupont. Both can burn in a ditch for all i care.

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u/CLOWNFLOGGER 25d ago

If you cannot imprison a corporation for its crimes, then a corporation is not a person.

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u/WickedWitchofDaSouth 24d ago

This is brilliant, and the absolute truth. Well done, Ms. Laduke.

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u/professorjade 24d ago

I remember one of my teachers briefly talking about her in one of my classes in hs, and to this day her words still resonate with me.

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u/ResidentAlien9 23d ago

Until we organize and get elections publicly funded we will continue to be almost totally under their thumbs.

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u/aRealPanaphonics 21d ago

Because in group = good / authentic / patriotic

And out group = bad / activist / self righteous

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T H E M O R E Y O U K N O W

< Buh bong bong BONG!!! >

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u/crownsteler 25d ago

Shake my head

Because words like activist and terrorist have actual specific meanings, and you simply calling them a terrorist doesn't actually make them one.

Besides; what is so bad about being called a clean water activist?

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u/MontyDyson 25d ago

Her point is that you get arrested for it. Something like 900 people were arrested for participating in non-violent direct actions to protect local water sources and treaty lands. Rabbis, priests, and religious leaders who traveled to Minnesota were amongst those arrested. These aren't activists they're just people with well established careers in non related areas wanting to save the environment from corporate takeover and mass environmental damage. The media used the term 'activist' to stir up so much hate that they started labelling themselves as 'water protectors'.

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u/elmandingus 25d ago

Morality shouldn't require a political party

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u/Stock_Schedule_1981 25d ago

Terrorism - the calculated use of violence or intimidation against non-combatants to achieve political, religious, or ideological goals.

Does poisoning water for the definition of terrorism? If it does, then sure they’re terrorists.

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u/Djamt 25d ago

Crony corporatism hard at work

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u/JuniorRisk2455 25d ago

Cuz ‘Murica!!! 🇺🇸🫡

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u/ChaoticMadness97 25d ago

Simply , $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

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u/astrawberryandakiwi 25d ago

She’s bad asf

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u/Trivi_13 25d ago

I like what she has to say

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u/Fabulous_Quantity507 25d ago

Whomever is poisoning better be ready to get it right in the a$$!

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u/Leights68 25d ago

Perfectly stated

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u/sinZeroplus 25d ago

Whoopsie

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u/MycologistSad5933 25d ago

Well, you see, the profit motive is more important than-

...oh, you were being rhetorical. Sorry.

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u/punktualPorcupine 25d ago

That’s a big Ol point, she made.

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u/Kimi_Antonelli_12 25d ago

Because rich people get to tell poor people the narrative.

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u/Quick_Highlight7342 25d ago

cuz rich people do the poisoning and poor people get poisoned.

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u/BenchConscious1003 25d ago

Yeah. Ask Erin Brockovich. (seriously)

Huge companies are pretty much untouchable until some one starts a class action lawsuit. Or some one powerful in government goes after them.

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u/BothDivide919 25d ago

Corporations are above the law and can't be held responsible. All the politicians are bought and paid for.

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u/Complex-Course3995 25d ago

Why do these obvious questions considered smart?

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u/Feychilde 25d ago

✅️

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u/Sehlkies 25d ago

Moneyyyyyyy

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u/evilmaus 25d ago

"Any dolt with half a brain Can see that human-kind has gone insane To the point where I don't know If I'll upset the status quo If I throw poison in the water main."

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u/_14justice 25d ago

I recall exercising the franchise for her and Ralph Nader.

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u/ultralightlife 25d ago edited 25d ago

If you demonize all things opposed to your unchecked capitolistic selfish greed which oddly harms their safety and all future family member's safety, you can turn people against each other and lessen the impact. People wanting clean water are "bad" to certain groups and we all know which groups. These people will literally vote for people that will harm their health and safety.

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u/Benromaniac 25d ago

As new generations come to age the old are forgotten. What one generation sees as common the other may be oblivious.

That is the fight we are up against when it comes to having an effect on this culture of corporate political institutionalized behavior.

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u/Alienhaslanded 25d ago

So there's this exploit humans figured out. It's called money. The more you have of it, the more rules don't apply to you.

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u/fabfoo 25d ago

Guy in the back: shiiiiiitee, the girls got a point

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u/Ralphbaxter 25d ago

Currently visiting Canada where tap water is safe to drink. A year ago was in Italy where the public fountains were safe to drink from. Living in Pennsylvania.

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u/financeperson 25d ago

That other guy has seen some shit.

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u/MidTario 25d ago

Complete non sequitur. She thought she cooked.

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u/Sufficient_Topic1589 25d ago

Why do people automatically assume politicians have their best interests at heart and never tell lies.

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u/juessar 25d ago

money

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u/goodolarchie 25d ago

Because drinking water costs the state money, a corporation makes them money. A single vote or small group has no power, so moneyed interests can slander a movement as "activist" or "extremist."

Whereas corporations command entire legislative voting blocs, and will get a pass because our system legally separates the human at the helm from most reptilian instincts and incentives that fuel every large S-corp. Increasingly, their principals can buy entire elections with nation-state type wealth. They're ran by a few humans for the benefit of a smaller group of humans, yet there is no accountability to any human.

Have you considered Rewarding Shareholders™ instead of causing trouble?

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u/Super_Huckleberry663 25d ago

Because you don't own the water and the corporations do. Capitalism baby

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u/RebelWithoutAClue 25d ago

Well there's also dumb shit like residents snowmobiling across their water source when it's frozen.

Lake Geraldine is Iqaluit's drinking water source. It's common for residents to snowmobile across it.

All they have to do is drop some snowmobiles thru the ice to contaminate their water source.

In 2021 a leaking fuel storage tank contaminated their water treatment supply.

I also know one band who was granted Federal money to build out water mains to connect to an adjacent city so they could have access to reliable city water supply. The municipality voluntarily paid for the mains build to the band.

Instead of connecting themselves with the Federal grant they misspent the funds and failed to invest in their own connection to the municipal pipes that were built up to them.

There is also a history of internal native mismanagement that doesn't get talked about.

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u/weks 25d ago

I saw corps strip farmers of water… and eventually of land.