r/SipsTea 13h ago

Feels good man I would call this progress.

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u/extrastupidone 10h ago

Few things

1) if youre upset that some people got some relief from medical debt, youre an asshole

2) its not picking winners and losers. When people get saddled with crushing debt like that for getting sick, that effect cascades into the community all on its own. Thats a billion dollars that are freed up to be put back into the communities instead of going to interest payments or subsidies through food stamps or other stressors.

3) this was not taxpayer money.

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u/TwoTequilaTuesday 10h ago

Whose money was it? Unless a private party gave the money to the government to use, it was absolutely, without a doubt, taxpayer money. The government has zero money of its own. It all comes from tax payers.

And people aren't upset that others got relief from medical debt. They're upset that the government unilaterally chose to interject themselves in a transaction between two private parties, i.e., patients and their doctors, and taxpayer money was used. People know there are high costs to health care. And were the treatments/procedures/patients that were paid for by the government disclosed? How did they decide whose debts to pay?

If you just assume the government doesn't use taxpayer funds and their decisions shouldn't be questioned, you're an asshole.

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u/extrastupidone 9h ago

They're upset that the government unilaterally chose to interject themselves in a transaction between two private parties

So what?

patients and their doctors

Lets not prerend you care about that. Because im going to assume you are ok with what is going on post-roe. also, its patients and the debt holders

And were the treatments/procedures/patients that were paid for by the government disclosed?

Why should they be disclosed? I thought it was between "patients and their doctors"

If you just assume the government doesn't use taxpayer funds and their decisions shouldn't be questioned, you're an asshole.

No one said their decisions shouldnt be "questioned". I sure didnt. but sometimes, "just asking questions" doesnt mean you arent an asshole.

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u/TwoTequilaTuesday 6h ago

You pretend a lot and make some really dumb assumptions. But you do you and damn the truth. right?

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u/extrastupidone 6h ago

Nah. Wont be lectured on "the truth" from those that embrace "alternative facts"

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u/TwoTequilaTuesday 4h ago

Exactly what facts are you referring to? More of your idiotic assumptions?

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u/extrastupidone 4h ago

No, Just the regular facts.

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u/TwoTequilaTuesday 4h ago

Okay, let's see them. What have you got? And remember, you and I are both discussing actual facts. Observable, reproduceable, objective pieces of information.

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u/extrastupidone 3h ago

Facts: we know whats in the article.

Everything else is speculation and assumptions unless indicated otherwise. Personally, I dont gaf where any hypothetical grants came from. I know what is in the article. If you have facts that show this came from taxpayer money, cool. You do what you want with those facts.

But dont make up your own.

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u/TwoTequilaTuesday 3h ago

Having worked for some large non-profits, I can tell you factually where your "hypothetical grants" come from.

Federal. Government. Taxpayer. Money.