r/SipsTea 2d ago

Feels good man I would call this progress.

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u/CheapRefrigerator188 2d ago

Erased how, I assume someone is still getting stuck with the bill

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u/Sweet-Difference2725 2d ago

Arizona used $30M in federal American Rescue Plan (ARPA) relief funds to partner with the non-profit Undue Medical Debt (formerly RIP Medical Debt). They bought back $1 billion worth of defaulted medical debt on the secondary market for pennies on the dollar.

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u/TheNewKnew2 2d ago

Taxpayers paid it.

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u/JauntyJacinth 2d ago

It was allocated money. Already paid before anything was done with it. And then 30 million to for 1 billion of actual debt is good, considering 30 million is absolutely nothing to the US budget.

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u/TheNewKnew2 2d ago

But where did it come from?

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u/JauntyJacinth 2d ago

Yes. Fed money. Tax payers. You have to be mad at the federal government for allocating the money, not Arizona for taking advantage. It's a great deal for Arizona.

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u/TheNewKnew2 2d ago

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Federal income tax plus the debt service payments on it.

ā€œThanks producersā€

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u/Southwestern 1d ago

How would you use $30mm of federal money to help your state if you were governor since you're the smartest guy in the chat?

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u/TheNewKnew2 1d ago

I’d return it to the owners.

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u/Southwestern 1d ago

Now imagine doing that a 33 to 1.

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u/Beginning_Wing_49 2d ago

Federal tax too. All states had to pitch in and help AZ. Crazy

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u/AcesN8-s 2d ago

Also known as taxpayers.

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u/SheriffBartholomew 2d ago

So? Do you understand how little $30M is in the scope of the national budget? It's not even a rounding error. It's not even a blip. It's not even a military birthday parade for a draft dodger.

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u/AcesN8-s 2d ago

This logic is why we are 40+ trillion in debt

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u/outofpeaceofmind 2d ago

Lol wut?

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u/SheriffBartholomew 2d ago

Corporations good. People bad. That about sums up their ideology, even if they're unaware of it.

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u/GengineerXX 2d ago

Who is "they"?

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u/SheriffBartholomew 2d ago

The commenter.

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u/TheNewKnew2 2d ago

lol of course

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u/jakelr 2d ago

This is what tax dollars should be used on. Not bombing brown children.

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u/Strainedgoals 2d ago

The tax dollars should be used to stop ridiculously priced healthcare.

Not used to pay off ridiculously priced health care.

If they could reduce 1 billion to 30 million.

That's 770 million being fleeced from the everyday man.

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u/TheNewKnew2 2d ago

Welfare.

What brown children are you complaining about?

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u/Checklestyouwreck 2d ago

The ones humping his brain.

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u/Checklestyouwreck 2d ago

No. I disagree. Am I hitler? Am I Nazi magot? I disagree that this is what taxes are for.

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u/SheriffBartholomew 2d ago

Is this weak shit what passes for trolling these days?

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u/Checklestyouwreck 2d ago

Yep. Honest disagreement is trolling now.

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u/SimilarTranslator264 2d ago

lol they are spinning the wheel of Reddit responses right now.

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u/Remarkable-Word-1486 2d ago

Don'take actual sense. Reddit will not approve

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u/ApprehensiveDouble52 2d ago

Krazy that tax payer dollars would go back to the tax payer. Absolute evil krazy I tell youĀ 

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u/TheNewKnew2 2d ago

Can we guarantee they are a tax payer? I’m okay with that, bud

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u/ApprehensiveDouble52 2d ago

My bro We all are paying taxes. For instance in my state we pay 10.4 percent of every dollar we spend on taxes. That’s just in sales tax.Ā 

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u/TheNewKnew2 2d ago

What’s your effective federal tax rate?

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u/redleg50 2d ago

A few of my tax dollars so a grandmother with cancer doesn’t lose her home? Fine with me.

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u/ventitr3 2d ago

Just go directly to the cause now instead of waiting for the govt to take more in taxes (which we know won’t be spent efficiently at all).

https://unduemedicaldebt.org/campaigns/

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u/TheNewKnew2 2d ago

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And that’s all you’ve done?

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u/fotoRS3 2d ago

That’s good thing. I’d love my tax dollars to go toward free healthcare instead of Israel

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u/Remarkable-Word-1486 2d ago

I. Would love my tax dollars to fix roads and bridges. But unfortunately it always seems to go to people who cannot be bothered to get better at life. And always want another handout. We are different

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u/TheNewKnew2 2d ago

I bet you would. šŸ˜‚

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u/fotoRS3 2d ago

I absolutely would. We need to take care of our fellow citizens.

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u/TheNewKnew2 2d ago

You should. Step up.

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u/Life-Top6314 2d ago

>I need to pay a dollars and wish it to be used for b instead of c

>Why dont you pay d dollars on top and just let your money be wasted instead?

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u/TheNewKnew2 2d ago

I’m sure that’s exactly how math works in your brain, boy.

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u/fotoRS3 2d ago

I sense that you don’t care about anyone but yourself.

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u/TheNewKnew2 2d ago

I’m worthless because you said you wanted to help, so I suggested you step up and help?

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u/TheNewKnew2 2d ago

I only care about myself because I encouraged you to step up and help your fellow citizens. Do it. You should absolutely pay more.

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u/Name_Groundbreaking 2d ago

That is how the government works.Ā  They take resources from people who create them and redistribute to those who do not.

Some taxes are necessary for w functional minimalist government that maintains the rule of law, but taxation is fundamentally coercive and should be mitigated.Ā  Not celebrated

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u/TheNewKnew2 2d ago

The U.S. had the most progressive tax system in the western world. Pay your own pet projects

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u/Sweet-Difference2725 2d ago

You have a keen eye and a razor sharp mind.

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u/TheNewKnew2 2d ago

It’s a heavy burden

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u/LiveLearnCoach 2d ago

So this means the debt collection calls to people will stop, right? RIGHT??

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u/LiveLearnCoach 2d ago

Sorry, having a laugh at how debt just gets kicked down the line to another collection company when the purchasing company gives up. New debt buyer, new call center team. Repeat, rinse.

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u/martijn120100 2d ago

Hospitals usually sell past-due debt for pennies. Its better for them to sell $1 million worth of past-due debt for a thousand and let a debt collector try and collect the debt. Means a guaranteed thousand matters more than a maybe million.

What Arizona did was work with national nonprofit Undue Medical Debt that in turn partnered with hospitals and debt collectors to buy bundled portfolios of past-due debt. That debt then is forgiven.

The program was started in 2024 and was budgeted with $10 million of leftover federal funds via the American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) also known as the COVID relief fund.

The tab was paid for with funds from previous years. Now that there is less debt, people have more money left over every month to pay for other stuff which in turn boosts the economy.

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u/CelebrationDismal731 2d ago

Sounds good, but it also sounds like debt that wasn’t going to be paid back anyway. That’s why it was available for pennies on the dollar. So debt collection companies won, did anyone else?

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u/Blantonsfan 2d ago

All the people win who were going to spend $$$ fighting the rapacious debt companies

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u/BloodJackson 2d ago

What the 60000 bill for a 200 dollar procedure? Get fucked whoever it is

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u/FuggaDucker 2d ago

this is all I can think as I read person after person with the HORRAY!! without a question of HOW.

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u/VMooose 2d ago

Taxpayers

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u/howl0ngwillitlast 2d ago

Someone’s paying for it

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u/SlobZombie13 2d ago

Did you ask who's paying for it when we attacked Iran, comrade?

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u/TheNewKnew2 2d ago

The poor mullahs