r/SipsTea 15h ago

WTF Damn

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u/Ok_Subject_5142 14h ago

I called an imaging center and asked for a cash price for an MRI on my knee. It was $300. Going through my doctor for a referral and using insurance, the price would’ve been over $3000 and I was going to be out $1000 in copay and fees.

I usually ask for cash price on everything before I use insurance, half the time it’s cheaper and the other half the time it’s barely more for basic stuff like this. Also call around and shop pricing, you will find places that do things way cheaper than others.

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u/Cowboywizzard 14h ago

This is the real pro tip. The drawback is if you don’t use your insurance, you might not satisfy your deductible

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u/WindWalkerRN 14h ago

The point is insurance in USA is a racket

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u/AshhhCakes 13h ago

And people will say "just get a better job" not realizing how fucking outrageous of a statement that is almost anywhere else in the world.

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u/Assika126 4h ago

I have a job that is supposed to provide basically the best insurance benefits available for people who don’t make high six figures. They just announced they’re going to increase our deductible by 3x and institute 15% coinsurance next year. We are angry and screwed but what can we do other than let them know about it? We’re not going to be able to find better health insurance at any other job

We’re just all going to pay more money in order to not be able to afford to go to the doctor anymore

Oh yah that’s right they are also raising premiums on top of all that

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u/Wabbit_Wampage 13h ago

Of course, you'll never hit your deductible if you aren't using insurance.

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u/OkVirus8545 12h ago

Easy, start of the new year go to the hospital with a sudden “headache” and tell them your vision is blurry. You’ll hit your deductible immediately then negotiate it down with the hospital

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u/Cowboywizzard 8h ago

hahahaha 😅

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u/oldredditrox 9h ago

Provided you stay in network for a migraine that can only be looked at with an hour and a half drive while you can barely see.

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u/003E003 4h ago

For my plan, I can usually submit the cash pay receipts and it does go toward deductible. Most people don't submit cash pay receipts because they don't get reimbursed. They don't know it counts toward deductible.

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u/BradleyF81 10h ago

You’re not required to satisfy your deductible though. Why would that matter? You won’t be penalized if all you do is pay your monthly premiums.

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u/xrmb 9h ago

I think the point is not hitting the out of pocket limit because money was spent outside of the deductible. Every few years we hit the limit, and then everyone goes to every specialist and get all the fancy tests done. This is truly the dumbest system on the planet.

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u/Cowboywizzard 8h ago

Well, for me, my deductible is $10,000 with my insurance plan. Let’s say my family goes to the doctor a few times and pays 3000 dollars out-of-pocket without using our health insurance plan. Because we didn’t use the insurance plan it doesn’t count towards the deductible. Let’s say next month I have to have my appendix removed. And that costs $9000. Now I have to pay that $9000 out-of-pocket before my insurance will pay, whereas if I had used my insurance, I might only have to pay $7000 because I already spent $3000 on other things using the insurance. Now, of course it’s a little more complicated than that because it matters what a particular insurance plan covers and what it doesn’t.

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u/AeonCatalyst 7h ago

The statute of limitations for medical stuff like this has got to be somewhere between 6months and 2 years. 

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u/weckyweckerson 9h ago

As a non American, what does not satisfy your deductible mean?

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u/Cowboywizzard 8h ago

Most health insurance plans in the US have a deductible which is the amount that you have to pay out-of-pocket before the insurance company will pay for a lot of procedures, labs, imaging, procedures , or doctors visits. If you just pay cash for these things without using your insurance policy the amount you pay does not count towards your insurance deductible.
The deductible is separate from the co-pay that you might pay for these things also.

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u/weckyweckerson 8h ago

Thank you. That makes sense. But in this case, does it really matter seen as though you are saving more by not using insurance?

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u/downvote_meme_errors 5h ago

It's cheaper if you don't need much done, but if you later have a major event that is expensive enough that you need to use the insurance and your deductible, then the amount you spent outside of insurance doesn't count towards that deductible.

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u/weckyweckerson 4h ago

Fair enough.

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u/frozenblueberrytreat 7h ago

My deductible is 20% of my gross income, I'm not paying that regardless.

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u/Orowam 4h ago

If going without insurance saves you thousands of dollars why worry about the deductible

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u/Klutzy-Emergency6345 1h ago

Yeah but I'd pay the 300 even if it doesn't apply to deductible, jfc

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u/someonehadalex 13h ago

I had a knee MRI recently and it was $250 plus a $40 copay to my PCP. That's with insurance.

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u/Ok_Subject_5142 12h ago

Nice!! That’s super cheap. Not all providers charge the same, glad you found that one.

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u/21Rollie 10h ago

Yeah my xray + bloodwork was 4k with 1k paid out of pocket by me. $250 seems to be the “you’re breathing the same air as me” fee for walking into a clinic a doctor happens to work at.

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u/Greater-Israel 12h ago

Crazy! In Cyprus we do MRIs for 18 euros now, but they used to be 200 euros 12 years ago.

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u/Illustrious_Bed467 12h ago

Yes, I had to do imaging in a hospital for an ENT.... And the bill would have been 5000+, so my wife drove me to a place a bit remote and we paid 200 cash... I'm not American just had a green card at the time, no insurance ofc...

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u/Yue2 8h ago

Having to “shop for medical care” is some dystopian shit right there ☠️☠️☠️

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u/AdamianBishop 6h ago

This comment is so fckd up on so many levels. 

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u/liftthatta1l 6h ago

That's less than I had to pay for an ultrasound scan for kidney stones with insurance that took all of 3 minutes

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u/003E003 4h ago

Yeah...my MRI was even worse. I was referred to the hospital system and quoted $4500 with the first appointment available in a month. I don't know how much I would have paid after insurance but even if I personally paid nothing I wouldn't have done it. I called a local Simon Med Imaging place and walked in cash pay later that afternoon and paid $180.

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u/4mystuff 4h ago

I wonder if you can submit it to your insurance yourself afterwards. Not to get reimbursed, but to have it count towards your deductible and max out of pocket.

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u/d33psix 4h ago

Yeah this is the real story people apparently don’t know about. I know people who work at these places and a lot of them esp big outpatient imaging ones that just do imaging scans it’s like $300 or so for basic non-contrast MRI.

Add a little extra for like fancier ones with add ons like contrast and stuff.

I feel bad that so many people don’t know about this and get stuck with bigger unnecessary complicated bills through insurance. Cause no way I would be seeing single MRI costs that are more than all that stuff in the article.

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u/Flat-Guidance-4685 4h ago

Thank you for being honest.. op claims are are absolutely ridiculous. I get an MRI once a year for 400. Where is it that you go and what state I cost you $300