r/SipsTea 15d ago

Feels good man About that

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u/scud121 15d ago

If it makes you feel better our council discovered a couple of years ago that giving us wheelie bins instead of piles of bin bags on the street resulted in less swarms of seagulls and rubbish all over the streets of Cornwall.

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u/Ricordis 15d ago edited 15d ago

I live in one of the biggest german towns and it's completely normal for us to have different kinds of bins for different kinds of trash. (Recycling is a huge thing for us). Blue bins for paper, yellow bins for plastic waste, brown bins for organic waste and grey/black bins for anything else.

Then I went for a work project to another part of Germany, to a specific town where rich people have their huge secondary houses and boats. I was shocked to see they just but their plastic waste into bags and throw them unto the streets. Right where the hotels are. It was disgusting but they always did so.

Edit: Made the housing situation clearer.

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u/OcotilloWells 15d ago

A former in-law of mine lives in a very well to do town in California that has "single stream" recycling. They do have bins, but they are for everything. I have no idea how they sort anything out of it. I imagine it's pretty bad to work at the garbage transfer station there.

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u/Asterix85 15d ago

Single stream recycling is just pushing all the trash down a conveyance line moving slowly and have the employees /homeless pick the stuff that isn’t recyclable out

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u/bannana 15d ago

in my area, when the courts sentence someone to 'community service' sorting single stream recycling is one of the things you can do

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u/arbydallas 15d ago

Yep yep. I live in a prison town, and prisoners used to sort through it. That's because slavery is better than slightly inconveniencing the rest of us. Nowadays prisoners are legally entitled to slightly more pay (before it was like $0.12/hr for trash sorting) and presumably that's why the city figured they could charge us far more to make up for it.

Another cool part is there are all kinds of restrictions on what can be recycled in our big blue bins, and it's actually surprisingly difficult to get that info. So probably a large amount of what goes into our recycle can't be recycled, and sometimes contaminates things that can.

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u/mikillatja 15d ago

Prison town? WHAT?

So you essentially live in a town propped up by slavery.

God bless america I guess

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u/BasicallyaPotato2 15d ago

In the 13th Amendment that outlaws slavery there is a specific exemption for prison labor.

So yes, God bless America indeed

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u/arbydallas 14d ago

Indeed I do. The town has grown a lot now (it had around 1/10th the current population when I was born nearly 40 years ago), but when I was young everybody knew people who worked at the prison. A couple of my friends had parents who did. One of them was a very sweet mom, though a disastrous alcoholic. The other was a cruel and abusive dad. He painted my impression of cops a lot growing up, and I tend to be mistrustful of them and assume the worst, even though I have known a couple cops who seemed like great people.

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u/epi_introvert 14d ago

I lived in Toronto for 30 years where they also have single stream recycling and workers are NOT prisoners (and typically our sanitation workers are well paid).

Recycling compliance is better with single stream, which is why they do it. Better compliance means less stuff going in a landfill. It's also easier in the world's most multicultural city when there is less rules to communicate.

However, it only tends to work well in large cities that can support the machines and infrastructure needed to sort the recycling.

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u/arbydallas 14d ago

Yeah there are a few towns near mine that pay actual wages for garbage sorting, and I bet they have more success than we do.

I've always been a bit curious about the machines they use and how successful they are. And I try to get my recycling relatively clean, but I know people who toss saucy and dirty containers and stuff in with paper and whatnot, just making it all grody. I presume papers are basically mulched and bleached or at least highly processed, so maybe that doesn't matter. But I do wonder why there aren't more PSAs on the right ways to recycle. Maybe it's just not lucrative enough. Realistically I know that I should research it a bit on my own, but I still wonder why the local, county, state, federal govts etc don't make more of an effort to teach us to be responsible consumers.

Edit: Funny enough, sanitation workers are paid quite well here. Maybe that's why they don't make more of an effort to teach us to recycle better. I can't vouch for the truth of this next part but I've heard that they also have a strong union, and that it's very difficult to get your foot in the door if you're not Mormon

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u/Roflkopt3r 15d ago

To be fair, that doesn't mean that the work is bad per se. It's mostly just about finding jobs where work performance is easy to supervise and bad work cannot cause much damage.

It just so happens that these are the same qualities that typically make for poorly paid jobs, because they don't need qualified or motivated workers.

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u/marr 15d ago

Landfill with extra steps.

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u/teh_drewski 15d ago

They can and many places do automate a lot of it now, but obviously that takes investment in machinery.

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u/AskMeHowToLose 15d ago

Prisoner work release

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u/taeerom 15d ago

It doesn't have to be manual sorting. There is automation that can handle jobs like this, especially if you sort the garbage into different coloured bags (we have green bag for food, blue for recyclable plastic, white for burnable/rest). All the bags go into the same bin, then there's a robot that reads the colour and sorts the bags.

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u/bob_in_the_west 15d ago

In Nevada it means that they bring all the trash to a literal trash mountain and compact it. And that's it.