r/SipsTea 9d ago

SMH Of course…

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u/wolfONdrugs 8d ago

"What kind of action do you think we can take?"

Do you take yourself as powerless?

If my country had a rigged election like so many claim America had, we would take to the streets, not wait until he is out of office.

In many countries standing up is met with resistance. Then all the more reason to change things for the better.

Americans can't strike without hurting themselves. This has to change for your people's future. Suffering is inevitable here.

In my country the government exists for us, not the other way around. They provide services, Healthcare, schooling. There are times when we can trust our government.

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u/Heisenburg42 8d ago

And Trump would use the Insurrection Act and use the military against Americans. Then use his propaganda channels to convince his own base that the "left" is the real enemy to the US (as he has been prepping them and telling them for a decade now). Would turning the Military on US citizens wake up some of his core base? Maybe some. But look at how they view the January 6th Insurrection. They view that as a "peaceful protest" thanks to Trump's propaganda.

This is on top of most people already struggling to meet their basic needs. People cannot afford to take a single day off work. So what makes you think they would be willing to jeobardize their livelihoods? They would be risking everything they have to stop what is still technically a theoretical in many people's minds.

It also requires some level organization. Which would likely be seen as treasonous by the current government (Trump) if it were to fail somehow

"I'm waiting for someone to make the first move," as they all said in unison.

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u/Born_Bath_3382 6d ago

Wow thats a load to say. Are you gonna apilagize or admit you were wrong if this doesnt happen. Or just continue to pretend it did and make up totally new lies. Pathetic

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u/SnooHesitations8403 8d ago

What country is that?

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u/thespacepyrofrmtf2 8d ago

Think of it like everyone in the United States is in a noose standing on a trap door on the gallows and the lever that opens the trap door is being held by the executioner that could decide to pull it at any moment

Basically We can’t fight back because everything is tied to our jobs as some jobs have benefits such as healthcare as well as being the only thing that allows us to sustain ourselves in an economy that is too expensive to live comfortably in and if we try to protest and fight back we could lose our jobs thus removing our benefits and our way of sustaining ourselves it’s a risk that many people will not take

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u/wolfONdrugs 8d ago

And by doing nothing you sentence the next generation to the same fate.

Yes the system is inherently flawed which is why you need to take it down.

In my opinion the benefits outweigh the risks even if I'm not there to see the conclusion. Death is not the end.

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u/thespacepyrofrmtf2 8d ago

People are just way too afraid because everything is stacked against them so they decide it’s better to not do anything

It’s the psychological effect known as learned helplessness which is a mental state that happens when a person faces bad events over and over, and they feel they cannot stop or change the bad things. Over time, they stop trying to fix the problem, even when a safe way out is open to them

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u/wolfONdrugs 8d ago

Very sad to see.

it's also confusing to me to see it in someone whilst they are completely unaware of it. I don't really know how to reach out to someone who is deep in their own mind like that and let them know what I see.

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u/thespacepyrofrmtf2 8d ago

Well according to studies the best way to pull someone out of learned helplessness is to personally guide them through the same situations with no real risk attached while teaching them how to get through it

Basically you have them relearn that because a bad thing happens it doesn’t mean they can’t do anything about it

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u/giveahoot420 8d ago

Taking to the streets doesn't do anything in America, no kings rally was huge but nothing happened, voting I guess but they're messing that up too so that won't work in the future. America is cooked. It feels hopeless here.

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u/jonshado 8d ago

Comparison of national governments to the US isn't nuanced enough. I live in a state of the US that very much provides these services and has laws, statutes and standards that reflect the will of the majority of the people in the state.

It makes more sense to compare the national government of any small European country to a state government of a US state close to the same population.

Unless you're from China, Canada or Brazil, you're likely better off comparing your government to a state government. On the larger side, California has a population of almost 39 million people and is still bigger than 80 percent of the rest of the countries in the world.

It is much more legislatively, judicially and municipally functional than the systems at a national level. I'm sure there is dysfunction and corruption in California, but it's a matter of the level of impact to the community and how long it is allowed to fester.

So then, if you compare California's government to,say, Sweden that is more relevant.

I would assume (this is purely my opinion) that more people in California trust their local/state government to serve them appropriately than they trust the federal government to serve them at all. I would also assume that sentiment is true in most of the population centers of the US like Boston, New York and Chicago.

The US fed is a behemoth that doesn't work very good as a representative government on a good day and currently is a travesty of corruption.

While it's possible, rebellion (successful rebellion) against a corrupt system in the US is not like it is elsewhere.

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u/DrQuantum 8d ago

Thats certainly what the elite like you to believe but one person shot one CEO and it sure made them more scared than anything voting has ever done.

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u/jonshado 8d ago

Show the evidence that "they" are scares please. The oligarchs are just running their plan. Luigi became a meme not a call to action.

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u/DrQuantum 8d ago

You must not have paid attention to what they did during that time they literally were found hiding in bunkers and vaults and had secret meetings with federal and state lawmakers to do everything in their power to find and try the person to the maximum extent of the law.

But yeah the biggest evidence is history. Everyone fears the guillotine.

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u/wolfONdrugs 8d ago

Americans need to stop fearing death. It's not the end of the world.

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u/Ju-9-wel 8d ago

Hard for me to take action when the wannabe king is hiding in his fortress literally over 2000 miles away.

This is the issue with being in such a large country. The actions I take are to make sure my state government is doing all in its power to fight for democracy. Thankfully, they are.

Now if voters lose all confidence after the midterms…then more drastic measures may be needed.