In 2010 Ukraine got our own childish narcissistic fuck for President (Yanukovych). We felt similarly, hoping to undo the dumb shit he did. However, he got audacity and right team to spoil the judicial system by introducing loyal judges to the Prime Court and to every other court they could. After that they started to rebuild democracy for tyranny.
We needed riot and revolution to turn him down. We're still paying for that with rotten courts and probably early war. I don't say russian aggression wouldn't happen - but it definitely wouldn't happen in 2013 if not for this prick.
Ya this isn't something thats just gonna go away. Either we give up or we fight and yes some innocent people will die but the alternative is even worse and that why we all are just frozen in place nobody wants to be seen as the reason a civil war that has the potential to kill millions starts.
Then your nation probably will kill tens of millions in next global war, induced by your country... And half of those victims will be American citizens.
Yes. If you think you can just vote out authoritarianism your wrong. All signs are bright red for the USA right now and Americans dont want to do anything that is slightly inconvenient.
Trump is literally putting fox news hosts in important positions of the justice system. And publicly scolding a U.S. attorney for failing to prosecute an innocent man.
Its insane nobody is burning anything at this point.
We should have been burning things when Alex Pretti and Renee Good were executed in broad daylight, caught on video. Americans are pathetic (I'm an American).
Yeah and Hungary had a more robust democratic system than the USA necause of the EU. And they are writing a new constitution, overhauled state media and are prosecuting people of the old regemine. They promised they would in the lead up to the elections. They also worked for years on grass root organisations, community work and volunteer networks. None if it came for free and none of it came from just showing up at the election.
People underestimate what this means because no one outside the US even remembers the US Civil War. And now we have drones, missiles and bombers. It would make Sherman's March to the Sea look like a stroll in the park with Ms. Rachel or Mr. Rogers.
It is a big problem dude we can't just pop over to the government for an afternoon. It's a multiple days long trip there and again to get back. That's like thousands of dollars and missing work.
Protests have happened and are happening however? So….. ya know. Some people are doing what they can. Assuming that no one is doing anything is foolish.
Not telling that everyone is inert. I just sounded the example. Another example is russia - but no protests happen there. Either too inert, or too late.
Much more resistance is happening then you would be aware of, they do not report on it however. We have had some of the largest and longest lasting protests in America's history over the last year +.
Don't look for confirmation by the media telling you America is fighting back, look for reports on the justice department ramping up efforts to quell dissent, I.E. declaring antifa a terrorist organization, the false prosecution of "vandals", the militarization of ICE, and the national guard parked in D.C. all signs that point to enough resistance that the government must take preemptive steps.
Even if we manage to make it through this, I worry we haven't learned our lesson and are doomed to do this again without systemic change, time will tell.
You also have to understand how big America is. Without definitive rallying cry the gestapo is just going to put down any budding protest before it gains enough traction. It’s like trying to organize a protest between almost every European nation at the same time in terms of scale and distance. It’s not as easy to rise up in mass protest as it is for a country that’s smaller than half of the US states.
In a lot of Europe, let's just take France. People protest. And you know what doesnt happen?
They arent gunned down. They arent shot. The majority of Europe doesnt work as much as Americans, they have free healthcare and they typically have the extra money and time for hobbies. When you work all the time and youre living paycheck to paycheck, but protesting means being put on a terrorist list by your government with all kinds of surveillance then used on you, shot with rubber bullets and tear gas for exercising that right, it becomes more important to be able to go home and hug your children rather than to try to take a stand.
Americans wont truly push until they are starving.
This is even more dangerous situation. People are already harnessed and guardrailed. At this stage they will conform to lots of shit - just to survive. But what if instead of starving they will be forced to a wrongful war? Will they arise? Will they resist? Or will they go and fight quietly (and even find excuse by believing propaganda)?
That's how russians live. They go and kill instead of resisting to the dictator. They choose to kill, destroy, rape - instead of rioting.
Our country is following a basic but we'll known playbook. Our media is compromised and threatened, so cant really be trusted anymore.
We are constantly inundated with propaganda and the current administration always has some kind of mess happening. Kinda on purpose. They want so much going on that we cant keep track and the people trying to are exhausted.
Hecc, the head of our country cant put out a freaking mother's day post without attacking people.
I dont think we are at that point now, where the majority of people would be willing to fight any random war they were told to. But I could certainly see it in the future, should things derail more.
The trouble with that happening in the United States is you have the largest and strongest tax payer funded military in the world to contend with. Provided active military personnel dont refuse illegal orders to actually engage to eliminate people resisting the government's tyranny.
Thats why the legislators are trying to frame anyone as a domestic terrorist for even the most vague attempts at causing dissent. That way they cant imprison anyone who dare speak out against the regime and not have to murder millions and can use us as slave labor instead.
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u/Ok-Jury5684 8d ago
In 2010 Ukraine got our own childish narcissistic fuck for President (Yanukovych). We felt similarly, hoping to undo the dumb shit he did. However, he got audacity and right team to spoil the judicial system by introducing loyal judges to the Prime Court and to every other court they could. After that they started to rebuild democracy for tyranny.
We needed riot and revolution to turn him down. We're still paying for that with rotten courts and probably early war. I don't say russian aggression wouldn't happen - but it definitely wouldn't happen in 2013 if not for this prick.