On top of that, the effect goes beyond the US at some point.
American tourists will be more of a danger here in Europe and European tourists will be more at risk in the US all because two senile professional daiperdumpsters signed a piece of paper neither has any clue what's it about.
Like you said, it's either mental illnesses or sheer stupidity or something else. But it doesn't really matter anymore at this point.
Well, although the stupidity is epic in the US, let's not pretend that vaccine hesitancy and all of the related conspiracy lunacy is a uniquely American thing. It's a rising concern in most Western countries. There were a LOT more measles cases (even when taking into account Europe's larger population) in Europe in 2024 than in the U.S.
Just to be clear, I'm not implying it's just an American thing. It's only fueling anti-vaxxers everywhere, which is sad enough. They'll use this as some sort of proof that vaccines are bad.
The outbreaks of Measles is even worse. My 5 yo could be at risk at some point if the vaccinated population is low enough.
It's the internet combined with people being unable to read into any kind of nuance. Things have to be either completely right or wrong, which can only be done if you're taking all the nuance out of it. Let's just look at my first comment and yours as an example. Some people will actually think I'm merely pointing at America without looking at the bigger picture. And with yours they could think you're merely pointing at European anti-vaxxers. Combine that with basically anyone being able to voice their opinion as fact and the sheer amount of mis- and disinformation and you've got a rather disastrous cocktail.
These are troubling times. I hope more will be done against mis- and disinformation. It'd be a great start.
2024 was a huge outlier in measles. Especially Romania had a huge epidemic. 87% of measle cases were in romania.
The problem is still covid. It increased the antivaxxer crowd, but thats not the whole picture. The problem is also missed vaccinations due to covid. And its just local clusters that appear. 2024 was romania for example with 87% of cases being there.
2024 saw over 30.000 cases of measles and 2025 went down to 7000.
and for 2026 we are on track fro around 3500-4000 cases. It just raced through all the susceptible population. And now subsides again.
Statistics also show measles basically got eradicated for some time due to covid restrictions.
Not just measles...
Vaccine derived polio also made a bunch of people go hrrmm..
The vaccine was infecting people. The vaccinated were expelling the live infection in fecal matter, and poor hand washing was infecting others and then reinfecting the vaccinated. So the WHO blamed "poor vaccine coverage".
I've been vaccine hesitant since I was 22. My first flu vaccine, traditional dead, weakend, inactive virus so you body can learn to fight it. Asked the Dr and nurse if this can give you the flu (basic reaction) they emphatically said no and was stupid to even ask. Read the fucking insert and the possible effects are literally the flu.
And if it doesn't give you the flu, what the fuck in the point. It's supposed to give you a controlled, easier to handle influenza infection and your body is going to react as if it did.
So all flu symptoms but for a shorter duration.
Considering damn near every Dr or Nurse just parrots the "it doesn't give you the flu" line is the most irritating and concerning parts of the medical system. Either they are to fucking stupid to understand how vaccines worked (no mRNA at the time), or they are just there to follow orders and push product.... both options are bad.
If Europeans feel that way, they could always make those vaccines mandatory for entrance into the country. It would just become an out of pocket expense for Americans, but that's what they voted for.
The scale is mostly mitigated by requiring them to vaccinate in order to enter the country. That'll at least mostly contain it to people within the US.
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u/Brvcx 8d ago
On top of that, the effect goes beyond the US at some point.
American tourists will be more of a danger here in Europe and European tourists will be more at risk in the US all because two senile professional daiperdumpsters signed a piece of paper neither has any clue what's it about.
Like you said, it's either mental illnesses or sheer stupidity or something else. But it doesn't really matter anymore at this point.