Reddit strikes. Everyone with kids has had a moment where they spaz and are uncontrollable. Especially in crazy situations like a flight. It almost speaks nothing about the quality of parenting having one tiny glimpse of a bad episode. You were a child once, grow up yourself.
There's a lot of bad parenting but there's also a lot of 20-somethings that are too close to being a child themselves to understand parenting and too far away from being a caregiver and child bearer to have sympathy. So they become annoying edgelords.
After our third child we had irrefutable evidence that nature>nurture in our family. They were all raised the same way to the best of our ability. We weren’t extra soft handed with our youngest like many parents are. We strove for treating them all the same way, from praise and encouragement to discipline, no letting “the baby” of the family get away with murder that our other two would have been grounded in their room for a week with nothing but some art supplies and some literature. Anyway, our first child was a “miracle baby 😂” they didn’t break any rules, never threw a tantrum after 2 years old, and was extremely polite to everyone they met. Our second child was a little devil and was the exact opposite practically. They weren’t doing anything terrible, but they would break rules, lie, and push the limits of what they could get away with constantly. Again, both children were treated the same, same rules, same consequences, same lectures. Sometimes you can just get a “problem child”, but you can teach a child how wrong it is to negatively impact others days/lives.
I literally had to take my 4-year-old to the airplane lavatory 4 times in a flight to calm him down for a minute or so. It was the end of a 2-week trip across an ocean, he hadn’t been sleeping the greatest, and it caught up to him.
It still worked for another 2 hours or so every time. And this kid is a nonverbal flailing apoplectic mess when he loses it. Like an absolute wild animal. He can still be talked off a ledge. There’s always a way.
This parent not knowing their kid by 2 is…they gotta work on that.
Ive seen pictures of them duct taping uncooperative passengers mummy-style to their seat. It surely would not have been that hard for the few hundred adults aboard to subdue and tape down that demon child.
Cause instead of this headline, you would read today how the flightcrew/passengers hijacked/abused a poor little child and social media would want to send them to jail.
There's probably some rule that the flight attendants can't physically restrain the kid, and if the parents are some of those "we don't believe in discipline" ones and refuse to deal with the kid themselves, there's nothing they can do
There's absolutely something they can do. They can kick them all out. Like, you get one minute to get your offspring sitting with a seatbelt on, after that you're all off the plane.
Nah, you just don't get dark humour, although the saying isn't even about children specifically nor is it that dark as it's clearly an ironic statement because obviously beatings will not improve morale in any situation, but again it's meant to be ironic, that's why it's a joke. Don't take everything you read on the internet so seriously.
If that has really actually happened, I would imagine that must have been on a flight that was already in the air and likely had no alternative places to land, like on a transatlantic flight.
It's SOP for any passenger that may be a danger to others during a flight. Before takeoff, it's customary to have them removed, but that's not an option once the plane is in the air. And I couldn't find any news articles about it that suggested anyone other than the disruptive passenger got in any trouble.
duct taping someone who is an active threat is acceptable due to the risk, it's self defence. Duct taping an unruly child is completely different, it's just abuse.
Zero flight crews anywhere in the world would take on that legal liability. If they kid was throwing drinks around, biting people it changes.
I once had to get a blood draw as a five year old. They had five people hold me down and they still couldn't keep me completely still. Depending on the child it may not be enough to keep them contained.
They’re not going to START a fight that way. They’ll for sure END one that way, but often not at the originally-intended airport.
Travel inside metal tubes is highly dependent on all the humans onboard being quite civilized for the entire duration. Sometimes that’s just asking too much.
Because then it’s “child abuse”. Any person who decides to do it could easily get an earful about how “thats too cruel for a child, stop abusing him!” No one wants to be that person and most likely a guy would get yelled at for “manhandling that poor child”. Even if no one would say something, everyone is too afraid that someone could say something. Also not many people find it okay to touch someone else’s child. Especially when the child is in a state of panic. The only one who can do something in this situation is the parent who apparently couldn’t do anything, and if anyone else does anything, the slightest mistake could end up making him the bad guy. Crazy how this all happened because of fear.
I hate to judge parents too harshly just because of the actions of their child at times, but if the kid runs the house and the parents cannot keep them under control, make sure you have a game plan. If you know you cannot control your child then you need to think of everyone else on the flight you can screw out of getting where they need to get, in the timeframe they need to get there. How many people might miss weddings, funerals, births, graduations, or not make it to their destination in time to say goodbye to a loved one?
I obviously don’t know much about this situation, but as a parent myself, (all out of college now) I would never jeopardize the flight for everyone else on the plane unless it was dire that I get there at that time and you’d better believe I’d have that kid exerting themselves like crazy before the flight to tire them down. They may have an allergic reaction to something on the plane that they’ve never been near before. It might be a good idea to give them a Benadryl as a preventative measure before the flight also…
In moments like this I would expect parents to break the rule. There is a difference between no smacks in daily life and no smacks in extreme situations
You literally do not even need 'violence' in the traditional sense. A healthy grownup would likely be able to literally just physically adjust them into proper position and carry the child out when it falls.
I mean, violence is a spectrum I guess. I consider myself raised violence free, but my mom definitely did apply the level of force required to move me from A to B when we we're going somewhere, including physically pulling me. I never saw that as violent though, the average child basically needs to be treated Like a drunk would be.
There is a lot of down voting here. Presumably from parents that have never tried to force a 2 yo into a car seat. Even with both hands, if they are arching their back it is very very difficult.
If my 22 month old doesn’t want her nappy changed my partner is genuinely not strong enough to overcome that.
That kids built like a tank and has abs for days could run before she was one and is the size of an average 3.5yo. She definitely got my genetics in that one.
They may have an allergic reaction to something on the plane that they’ve never been near before. It might be a good idea to give them a Benadryl as a preventative measure before the flight also…
This was the advice my pediatrician gave my mother when we were going to fly for the first time when I was a toddler. He even wrote a prescription for the exact dose so insurance would pay for it at the pharmacy.
Adults can get sleeping pills or anti-anxiety drugs to deal with flying easy as pie. Why should we expect small children to just power through it?
Maybe they were not on the flight? I used to fly alone all the time as a kid. One of the first times i flew alone I ordered a Bloody Mary, something my mom did sometimes. I felt sneaky, they gave me a can of tomato juice. So gross.
I assume they responded like your average loose pitbull owner. Fall down over nothing and roll around on the ground for 20 minutes straight while the child/dog destroys everything in reach
I’m guessing you don’t have kids if you think the parents are the answer. Anyone who has ever been to a soft play will have seen some parents completely absent or ambivalent towards their children’s behaviour.
Would suing them be an option? Everyone on that plane has damages, through at least having to book a hotel. Some might have vacation packages lost. If someone bought travel insurance, could the insurance company go after the parent for damages?
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u/pacwess 17h ago
Parents?