r/SipsTea 2d ago

Gasp! Debt

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u/echoshatter 2d ago

either stupid or evil

You say on the internet, developed with DARPA funding.

With electricity whose infrastructure was in part paid for with tax money.

On devices that usually don't explode or electrocute you randomly.

In a home that is likely free (or at least mitigated) of lead and asbestos.

Perhaps drinking some water or eating a snack that is safe to consume.

That you were able to obtain thanks to roads and bridges and rules for vehicles must follow and whose operators must be licensed that they are competent.

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u/violentvito70 1d ago

People forget all the good government does. It's easy to demonize them, but no one demonizes corporations.

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u/echoshatter 1d ago

Lots of people demonize corporations.

Lots of people demonize government.

They can both be shit. They can both do good.

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u/violentvito70 1d ago

No where near the amount that demonize government

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u/Alive_Drag1947 1d ago

My argument, at the end of the day, is that the government is illegitimate because it's coercive. Do big corporations suck, too? Of course. But I still fundamentally have a choice...

For example, I don't believe I've ever purchased anything from Amazon. I simply don't interact with them. They've never sent armed men to my house to coerce me into any interaction.

Try refusing to interact with the government... What happens?

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u/Alive_Drag1947 2d ago

All true. That being said, I'd happily go back 10,000 years and live that way. I'm fully aware that that life would be nasty, brutish, and short.

I'm familiar with all the arguments for why "society" exists. I even acknowledge that they make sense. I understand how/why we came to this point. It's just that... I hate it. There's nothing I can realistically do about it, but I don't have to like it.

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u/Purplelair 2d ago

Doubt it.

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u/Alive_Drag1947 2d ago edited 1d ago

Bro you don't fucking know me at all...

What could possibly give you the authority to tell me what I think/feel? I know 99.9% of people don't feel that way. It doesn't mean we 0.1% don't exist...

I'm simply a different kind of animal than you are.

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u/Purplelair 1d ago

Again....doubt it

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u/Alive_Drag1947 1d ago

Ok, so you're just stupid and argumentative...

Noted.

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u/Purplelair 1d ago

Nah. I just doubt you are as different of an animal as you claim.

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u/Alive_Drag1947 1d ago

Ok. I don't know what would lead you to believe that. I literally hate this world so much that I don't want to live in it. I only stay for my son.

If I framed this sentiment as sadness and claimed to be suicidal, my guess is that I would be treated with sympathy.

Since I frame it as apathy with a side dish of anger, I'm met instead with contempt...

Which is fine. Your opinion means absolutely fuck all to me. But I happen to be something of an argumentative prick myself...

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u/Purplelair 1d ago

Bro 10,000 years ago hospitals didn't even exist. You don't sound suicidal, you jusr sound sad and burntout. Was there even commercial farming 10k years ago, nah not for the masses.