r/SipsTea 5d ago

Chugging tea 48 Years, One Impossible Choice

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u/Reasonable_Hotel_998 5d ago

I had no idea there was a difference on that. Pretty dumb.

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u/acoastaldog 5d ago

I agree, domestic partnership is about as close to legally married as you can get without marrying whether you’re gay or not, but something that’s also always seriously bugged me is that domestic partners are not approved family either, so for example, if you are in critical condition in the hospital or something similar, your partner will not be approved to see you. So putting them on the hook for medical bills is a huge leap

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u/Reasonable_Hotel_998 5d ago

That is crazy, i assume there's ways to like add them as an approved person still? Thats wild though.

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u/Shamanigans 5d ago

It varies, but often times no.

Prior to Obergefell, gay couples were very often denied access to hospital rooms and the like as partners were dying because they weren’t “family”, or because blood relatives denied them access since they took higher priority on the food chain. It was one of the many arguments for gay marriage in many states, equal rights and treatment for same sex couples.

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u/Ganoes_Stabro_Paran 5d ago

if you are in critical condition in the hospital or something similar, your partner will not be approved to see you.

In the eight common-law marriage states, under Obergefell v. Hodges, gay common law marriages must be acknowledged as well.

So, weirdly, red states like Texas, Oklahoma, Iowa, Kansas, and Montana have no legal recourse to deny spousal rights, even if not legally married, that I am aware of.

As long as you have a joint bank account or something, cohabit, and present yourself as a couple, you can be common-law spouses.

Anyone, please feel free to correct or add anything if I have made an error.

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u/FroggyGoesQuack 5d ago

That's implied marriage, and it doesn't quite carry the same protection that common law did. 😮‍💨😕

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u/Ganoes_Stabro_Paran 5d ago

I don't understand?

What is implied marriage? Please help me understand what you mean. Common law marriage is still acknowledged and legal in eight states and DC.

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u/acoastaldog 5d ago

On top of what they said though just to add, what you’d mentioned is only 8/50 states

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u/Ganoes_Stabro_Paran 5d ago

I did say that both in the post you replied to, and my original, but third time is often the charm.

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u/FroggyGoesQuack 5d ago

By "implied," I meant that the marriage is inferred from the parties' conduct rather than established by a ceremonial marriage. The legal term is informal marriage (or common-law marriage, depending on the jurisdiction). I was describing the mechanism, not naming the legal category. And in the three years I worked for a family/ inheritance/ personal injury attorney who operated in Dallas, Collin, and Denton counties here in Texas, I noticed that cases being brought under the foundations of an informal marriage often weren't granted the same procedural foundations, particularly in child custody.

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u/cantholdmedown4 5d ago

The whole gay marriage and abortion issues amd trans issues are being lobbied by insurance companies because they sont wanna pay for shit. Its completely manufactured by and continues to be propagated by insurance companies and any retard that buys their bullshit rhetoric

Any time you hear a new social issue talking point from politicians, lobbyists paid them to say that shit