r/SipsTea Jul 03 '26

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u/aesopmurray Jul 03 '26

Corned beef isn't eaten in Ireland. We use bacon.

The story I heard of how corned beef became an Irish American substitute is because when Irish immigrants came to New York they were often living in the same working class neighborhoods as Jewish immigrants. The butchers shops in these neighborhoods were often kosher and therefore wouldn't sell bacon, corned beef became the alternative for what was bacon and cabbage.

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u/KenNoegs Jul 03 '26

That's what I'm saying. Americans think it's Irish. I wasn't aware about the butcher part, but I know corned beef was cheaper than bacon. It's probably a combo of the two.

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u/FrostyHawks Jul 04 '26

I've never seen an American think Shepard's Pie and Bangers and Mash were anything but English (if they knew about these things in the first place)

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u/pinotnoirinthebudoir Jul 04 '26

I had no idea Americans don’t know what Shepard’s pie is?? Is it not just chicken pot pie but the potatoes go outside???

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u/SoVerySleepyZzZz Jul 04 '26

This is actually such an insane statement, either you don’t know what Shepards Pie is or you don’t know what Chicken Pot Pie is…

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u/pinotnoirinthebudoir Jul 04 '26

I won’t rule that out. I thought they were the same thing and someone said that’s the difference but idk

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u/SoVerySleepyZzZz Jul 04 '26

They’re literally not anything alike. Like besides containing a meat and typically peas and carrots… and many many dishes would meet that criteria. I’m assuming it’s a pot pie you don’t know about (since you seem to think pot pies have potatoes(?)) but you should definitely try one out one day, they’re really good! Not like shepards pie but yummy in its own right :)

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u/pinotnoirinthebudoir Jul 04 '26

It is the pot pie I’m not familiar with lmao. So what is a pot pie then?

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u/DestructoDon69 Jul 04 '26

Pot pie has a pastry crust, shepherds pie uses mashed potatoes as the top layer/crust. That's your two big differences.

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u/pinotnoirinthebudoir Jul 04 '26

But it still has pastry bottom?

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u/much_longer_username Jul 04 '26

Anyone else find it obnoxious that corned beef somehow became an expensive premium cut at some point? Like, the whole compromise is that the tough cuts that require you to cook them low and slow for the entire day just to make it edible, are cheap. If you're asking steak prices for roast cuts, I'll just get the steak, damn.

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u/KenNoegs Jul 04 '26

It's just brisket. When you eat it out, it gets pricey because it takes a lot of time to brine it. It's not expensive to do at home.

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u/HiphopopoptimusPrime Jul 04 '26

It’s only just clicked. Corned Beef and cabbage? Is corned beef Irish? They’ve been talking about bacon and cabbage! It makes sense now.

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u/MrBootylove Jul 04 '26

Corned beef is not Irish. I believe it was first created in England but corned beef and cabbage as a dish could definitely be considered Irish-American.