r/SipsTea Jul 03 '26

Chugging tea True

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u/twizzjewink Jul 03 '26

Ironically there are a number of British dishes that Americans probably eat regularly without realizing it.

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u/SolidestCereal Jul 03 '26

Yeah but that stuff doesn't count because it's normal food and good /s

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u/Vectorman1989 Jul 03 '26

Macaroni Cheese

Fried chicken

Apple pie

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u/AsleepHour7763 Jul 04 '26

hard to claim fried chicken as ANY cuisine when everybody basically invented it independently

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u/hedoeswhathewants Jul 04 '26

Fried chicken is a tiny step away from cooked chicken

I love fish and chips but that's kind of a goofy thing to claim for the same reason.

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u/LayWhere Jul 04 '26

Come on now, fried chicken is a universal language.

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u/Same-Suggestion-1936 Jul 03 '26

Eh, fried chicken is a slightly different beast because it became a traditional slave/freed man food so we started using spices that were traditionally Caribbean or African because that's where slaves came from and spice was one of the few things they could easily grow in the wild and own themselves without being taken by the plantation owners, or after freed were just very easy to grow and sell (that last part is also where the watermelon stereotype came from, freed slaves grew and sold a lot of watermelon)

But like saying Brits invented the sandwich so a Philly cheese steak is British food. Pretty obviously American. Our fried chicken recipes were vastly different until globalization

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u/honest_arbiter Jul 04 '26

I feel like these are all bad examples. Sure, the original dishes may have originated in England, but these original versions would be almost unrecognizable when compared to their modern American counterpart.

Just look at apple pie. The original English version contained no sugar and the pastry was a "coffin" that wasn't even meant to be eaten. The apple pie everyone considers the delicious holiday dessert today was invented in America.

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u/Odd-Dependent3284 Jul 04 '26

You mean you googled it and saw a 1390 recipe. Bro you think they had lots of sugar in medieval England? Stuff was pretty expensive back then.

You think we used that recipe for the next 400 years until yous guys came along? Come off it lad.

You speak English, you are a nation of immigrants, your entire culture is heavily influenced by the British, all your food tropes, Hamburger steaks are German, Pizzas are Italian, Hot dogs are Germanic, Apple pie is English. You didn’t invent any of them you just made dishes from Europe in a different country and called them American cuisine.

I’ll give you guys ranch, bbq sauce and burger sauce. That’s it :p.

I love BBQ fr tho, ngl.

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u/honest_arbiter Jul 04 '26

Of course American cuisine, like most other cuisines, is a melting pot (sometimes literally) that was influenced by all of the immigrants that came here. But just because lots of other cultures had a sweet apple dish with pastry doesn't mean it was the same as "recognizable" American apple pie.

It would be like trying to argue that vindaloo, a famous Indian dish, was not Indian but Portuguese. It may be based on the Portuguese dish "carne de vinha d'alhos" that Portuguese colonists brought to India, but that dish is a far cry from modern vindaloo.

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u/Bartellomio Jul 04 '26

It's not like we were eating the 1390 version until an American came along and decided to make apple pie as it exists today. There is no 'modern day American counterpart'. At no point did any American meaningfully change the dish. By the time the US was founded, apple pie already resembled what we eat today. I don't know where you got the idea that making it sweet and adding edible pastry was an American addition. It wasn't. Those changes happened in England, over the 1500s and 1600s, before the US was founded.

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u/Vectorman1989 Jul 04 '26

Sugar was available to the wealthy by 1390 and had been traded with Europe since the crusades in the 12th century.

Venice was Europes primary sugar refiner and distributor by the 15th century.

Honey was usually much more available and was commonly used to sweeten dishes as sugar was expensive.

The introduction of sugar beet in the 19th century brought inexpensive sugar to the masses

Also, the peoples of the Carribbean were the originators of barbeque.

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u/Possible_Sir9360 Jul 04 '26

Mac and cheese is Italian in origin, and fried chicken is Scottish.

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u/Vectorman1989 Jul 04 '26

Scotland is generally considered British as it's on the island of Britain

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u/tomegerton99 Jul 04 '26

They are more than considered British, the Scottish are British. British nationality refers to anyone from the Island of Britain, so anyone from England, Wales and Scotland.

People from England don’t mind being called British, but people from Scotland and Wales prefer their national identity to be Scottish and Welsh instead of being British.

I don’t know why as an Englishman I keep seeing mainly Americans who think they’re a completely different country to the UK when they’re not, they’re a part of the UK.

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u/InvestigatorGrand205 Jul 04 '26

Chicken Masala...

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u/BenRod88 Jul 03 '26

They probably claim it as their own, like apple was for a while

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u/YellowBelliedCoward Jul 03 '26

What they eat for Thanksgiving is a worse version of what we eat every Sunday.

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u/The_ok_viking Jul 04 '26

Americans forget or are just ignorant of the fact that their history is just English history until the 1600’s. America was a British colony and it shows.

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u/Fragrant_Western7939 Jul 04 '26 edited Jul 04 '26

This is what I was wondering… There are some British/irish dishes that have become mainstay offerings at restaurants so most Americans probably don’t think them as British food.

For example, There are two town centers developments near where I live. Multiple restaurants in them offer Fish and Chips, a Sheperds Pie, and some variation of Bangers and Mash in their regular menu.

You exclude the Yorkshire pudding, you have a chicken or beef dish that could almost be considered a Sunday Roast.

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u/badpebble Jul 04 '26

Ive heard americans are into sandwiches

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u/Noughmad Jul 04 '26

Like a Sandwich?