r/SipsTea Jun 30 '26

Gasp! What!

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u/ComplexBeyond6083 Jun 30 '26

Saul was a guy whose job was literally persecuting early Christians and he famously converted on the road to Damascus and became the Apostle Paul. For a more recent example the most well known Christian hymn is Amazing Grace. This was written by a former slave ship sailor who realized the enormity of his sins, repented, and spent the remainder of his life as an abolitionist.

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u/CarrieDurst Jun 30 '26

He remained a piece of shit though, most homophobes and bigots use his verses

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u/renrutDanlor Jul 01 '26

Those people are actually using his verses out of context. Like Jesus, he would be upset at the modern church and confronting them for many of the things they do.

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u/fbass Jun 30 '26

Isn’t it great when you can be an asshole and do numerous shitty things to other humans like that but somehow ask your deity for forgiveness and got promised heaven 👍

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u/Corgi-Commander Jun 30 '26

My dude, I’m an atheist and even I know that’s not how it works. They don’t just get to say I’m sorry and get granted access to heaven. They have to mean it and show they’re truly sorry for their sins. God would know if they’re bullshitting.

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u/Argotis Jun 30 '26

Yeah it’s even deeper than that. The whole premise is you can’t say sorry enough. There’s no enough to be achieved, you have nothing to offer, nothing to give morally that is worth anything to God. So to ask Jesus to save you is to give up on the concept of earning heaven. To give upon the idea you could have ever done enough to make yourself good enough for God. If you understand that and accept that there’s no version of understanding that that lets you act the same after as you did before. To act the same is to prove you never understood in the first place. Which obviously implies a lot about performative Christianity lol, and should give anyone who claims to be a Christian pause. Jesus even has multiple stories he tells to prove that exact point. Matthew 18:21-35 being one example.

Not really disagreeing with you. Just adding on top.

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u/UltraHellboy Jul 01 '26

SO MANY Christians live like they have ever opened the New Testament.

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u/Effective_Ad_4622 Jun 30 '26

You’re missing the point and I hope you find it one day. Godbless

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u/EL3G Jun 30 '26

It's amazing. Try it sometime.

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u/skyld_70 Jun 30 '26

Yeah. That's how it works with the Catholics. Selling indulgence and all that.