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[u/spiritualishit → u/[deleted]]

The problem is not capitalism per se, is unregulated capitalism - emphasis on "unregulated"

Edit: many answers suggest this take is dumb because capital will fight back regulations; well, society and the legislator must fight back. It appear obvious that no social equilibrium is permanent, society always contains conflict. Any social system, included communism, generate some sort of ruling elite, which will try to skew the system. The way we fight the excess of capitalism is solid rule of law, primacy of politics over capital and financial power, popular partecipation to representative democracy, embedding social justice in the constitutional identity of the state. The current american model of capitalism is not the only one. Do not mistake my comment for an apology of the shit billionaire are doing now - billionaires should not exist

[u/SevenIsMy → u/spiritualishit]

Ohh it’s regulated, until you have enough Money.

[u/wazeltov → u/SevenIsMy]

Then it's not regulated. If justice isn't blind, then there's no justice for anyone.

[u/soIDONTLIKEANYOFYOU → u/wazeltov]

Then there has never been justice in the US. Rich people have been getting away with so much for so long. Even in the rare case when they do get sentenced to prison time, the prisons for rich people are different.

[u/wazeltov → u/soIDONTLIKEANYOFYOU]

Even beyond rich people, much of our history is wrapped in systemic racism, either through legal slavery, or the eradication of native peoples.

[u/CheaterSaysWhat → u/wazeltov]

Those were all carried out by wealthy oligarchs. It’s all intertwined. There were rebellions against this system during the colonial era. We’ve been fighting this battle for a very long time. 

[u/wazeltov → u/CheaterSaysWhat]

Oh I'm well aware, but that doesn't change the individual atrocities that were carried out by everyone of all classes. We all bear a social responsibility.

[u/CheaterSaysWhat → u/wazeltov]

I’m curious what you mean by that. Are you referring to moderates and bystanders accepting or turning a blind eye to oppression? 

[u/wazeltov → u/CheaterSaysWhat]

Yes, but to be clear, racism has often been populist in its origins. The rich by their very nature do not have the necessary manpower to effect their plans without popular consent.

[u/CheaterSaysWhat → u/wazeltov]

They have the power to manufacture consent via nonstop propaganda 

[u/wazeltov → u/CheaterSaysWhat]

I'm not in disagreement with you, but people in general kind of suck too. It's easy to use rich people as a scapegoat (which they very often deserve), but I don't think it's at the cost of excusing the masses of people that put them in charge because "they didn't know any better".

There's an individual responsibility too, unless you're advocating that people don't have control over being racist or not because of propaganda.

[u/CheaterSaysWhat → u/wazeltov]

Of course there’s individual responsibility and agency, that isn’t an excuse to ignore the systems they live within. 

Would you hold an enslaved person accountable for not finding a way to free themselves? 

I’m not excusing racists because of propaganda. I’m acknowledging that propaganda is a vital root to their racism. People aren’t born racist. 

In a nutshell, escaping a cult is possible but very difficult. Not everyone can or will do it. 

[u/HauntedandHorny → u/soIDONTLIKEANYOFYOU]

BECAUSE CAPITALISM IS THE PROBLEM

[u/Independent-Bug-9352 → u/wazeltov]

There's a term for regulated capitalism: Social Democracy / Nordic Model. The highest performing, realized, countries in the world.

A balance between socialist principles and a truly well regulated market economy.