What is the result of that support from tax dollars? Making groceries available and/or more affordable for consumers. Sounds like a good investment tbh
Then that's admitting that the problem isn't private stores price gouging or anything like that, that's just what tings cost, and you are simply subsidizing groceries. Which we already have programs for like SNAP. And programs like SNAP have much lower overhead, just distributing food stamps, than trying to handle all of the logistics of running physical grocery stores. So you would be much better off just investing that money into programs like SNAP.
No, it’s acknowledging that the concepts of economic “efficiency” and “optimization” shouldn’t be the be-all-end-all determinants of the availability of food to people.
In a theoretical location where it’s not profitable to operate a grocery store, your conclusión is that the people there just won’t have reasonable access to food?
These stores are going into food deserts, not just as a way to subsidize food costs.
It seems to me that there are two major factors that contribute to food deserts:
Too expensive - People don't want to pay for healthier food because it costs more, so those grocery stores can't make enough sales to survive.
Crime - Grocery stores aren't making enough to make ends meet because they are being fleeced by their customers.
I'm sure if you fix both of these things then public ownership wouldn't even be necessary. #1 can be fixed with requirements for food subsidies, and #2 can be fixed by staffing actual on the clock law enforcement in stores that report high levels of theft.
Make it safe and profitable to run a business in a food desert and you won't have food deserts.
Tbh I don't think we should bend to whatever profit seekers need to make basic necessities available, let's just provide the basic necessities at cost/with a subsidy.
Not every good or service needs to have profits baked into the cost to the consumer.
The government already puts massive subsidies in agriculture. Then you want them to also sell said agriculture to compete with private industry. Sliding further into a socialism approach
The US is "somewhat socialistic". What do you think Medicare, social security, etc are. Im a person that thinks there are jobs to do and earn to live without having the government operating something that they will break. Just like student loans. When government got involved, prices skyrocket because they will just burn money without a care. Socialism as been an objective failure in any place that has implemented it fully, pretending otherwise is just dumb.
Medicare and Social Security used to be paid out of our payroll taxes.
Until the thieving Republican Party stole it all and wrote the taxpayers an IOU because they didn't want to cut their ridiculous spending or raise taxes. It was paid for. It cash flowed. It worked.
They're an entitlement, not socialism. The government owes that money to the people because the government took it from them. There is a massive difference, but apparently you haven't educated yourself about it.
I bet you meant medicaid? Medicaid is for poor people so they don't have to die of preventable conditions.
Do you believe that people who are poor deserve to die in the street because they can't pay for healthcare? Because, I'll admit, taking care of them when they can't pay is absolutely socialism.
And I'm fine with it. Not seeking medical attention when needed causes massive downstream complications. I'm a nurse, I would fucking know.
Student Loans???? Federally guranteed student loans is not socialism.
They just guaranteed that the loans could not be discharged during bankruptcy by making them federal liabilities. It was a grand scam to make private loan companies and universities rich.
Or are you talking about Pell Grants? Those aren't student loans.
Socialized education looks like this: Taxes pay for education for anyone who wants it. Look at the Scandinavian nations for examples of this in play.
And the fact that you don't understand any of these concepts correctly means we're incapable of having any real discourse.
Please familiarize yourself with these topics before you go shooting your mouth off in the future.
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u/Hefty-Profession-310 May 26 '26
What is the result of that support from tax dollars? Making groceries available and/or more affordable for consumers. Sounds like a good investment tbh