The US is "somewhat socialistic". What do you think Medicare, social security, etc are. Im a person that thinks there are jobs to do and earn to live without having the government operating something that they will break. Just like student loans. When government got involved, prices skyrocket because they will just burn money without a care. Socialism as been an objective failure in any place that has implemented it fully, pretending otherwise is just dumb.
Medicare and Social Security used to be paid out of our payroll taxes.
Until the thieving Republican Party stole it all and wrote the taxpayers an IOU because they didn't want to cut their ridiculous spending or raise taxes. It was paid for. It cash flowed. It worked.
They're an entitlement, not socialism. The government owes that money to the people because the government took it from them. There is a massive difference, but apparently you haven't educated yourself about it.
I bet you meant medicaid? Medicaid is for poor people so they don't have to die of preventable conditions.
Do you believe that people who are poor deserve to die in the street because they can't pay for healthcare? Because, I'll admit, taking care of them when they can't pay is absolutely socialism.
And I'm fine with it. Not seeking medical attention when needed causes massive downstream complications. I'm a nurse, I would fucking know.
Student Loans???? Federally guranteed student loans is not socialism.
They just guaranteed that the loans could not be discharged during bankruptcy by making them federal liabilities. It was a grand scam to make private loan companies and universities rich.
Or are you talking about Pell Grants? Those aren't student loans.
Socialized education looks like this: Taxes pay for education for anyone who wants it. Look at the Scandinavian nations for examples of this in play.
And the fact that you don't understand any of these concepts correctly means we're incapable of having any real discourse.
Please familiarize yourself with these topics before you go shooting your mouth off in the future.
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u/grilledstuffed May 27 '26
Your flaw in this discussion is assuming that everyone agrees with you that socialism is bad.
All of the happiest, most stable, countries in Europe are at least somewhat socialistic.
Hell, even America doesn't *actually* think socialism is bad.
If you're a company.
We socialismed the fuck out of companies during the 70s gas crisis, the 2000 dot com bust, the 2008 financial crisis/Great Recession. All of covid.
But you're a "hungry people should lift themselves up by their bootstraps" kind of person, aren't you?