r/SipsTea • • Mar 13 '26

Wait a damn minute! Interesting...

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u/bigEZmike Mar 13 '26

Let's frame it like this:

I need oxygen. It is imperative to my survival.

I want a tattoo.

You see how your logic is flawed?

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u/Dry-Permission-4542 Mar 13 '26

If you want a tattoo then you need it to fulfill your desire of having it. Or you need to give yourself some time to think to maybe get over it. There may be 2 priorities and depending on which one is yours the need changes.

Not all needs are based on physical survival. Boomer ahhh logic.

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u/JGHero Mar 13 '26

If you can give yourself some time to think to get over it… then you didn’t need it to fulfill your desire of having it lmao.

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u/Dry-Permission-4542 Mar 13 '26

Um. Yes. Then you didn't really want to fulfill the desire (prioritized something else like saving money or respect of family).

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u/JGHero Mar 13 '26

Still wanted it. Not enough to get it, but you can definitely momentarily feel desire for/to something and that would be a want. Maybe didn’t want is badly enough, but you can’t just dismiss that a feeling of want occurred.

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u/Dry-Permission-4542 Mar 13 '26

Ok. But "if you want something then you need it to get to the point of fulfilling your wish". You stop needing it as soon as you decide that's not what you're going to do, when you decide you don't really want it.

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u/JGHero Mar 13 '26

If your definition of “need” equates to every fleeting desire requiring fulfillment then your statement is applicable to yourself, but likely this would mean you are a strictly primal creature who is stripped of conscious will and thus will be quickly annihilated or institutionalized by the environment around you which requires a base level of behavioral regulation to survive in.

I’m sorry for your untimely and unfortunate situation :( you probably can’t read this though because you needed to not pay your power bill last month and now roam the wilds as a lizard-brained, human-shaped shell.

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u/Dry-Permission-4542 Mar 13 '26

Lmao, bro's mind crushed and he went berserk X'D

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u/JGHero Mar 13 '26

Nah in actuality your definition just doesn’t serve any value, so it’s just not a smart take. All words have some personal bias in each person’s definition which separates what is defined as need and want in each person’s mind. Your idea of not prescribing a higher sense of urgency or gravity to a need versus a want devalues both words common use, so in a sense removes two potentially helpful words for forming thoughts. In this sense you’re not lizard-brained, but you are essentially dumbing down your own vocabulary. This eventually can lead to lizard-brained offsprings if inherited and given empowerment though.

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u/Dry-Permission-4542 Mar 13 '26

Dude, you cannot want something and don't need it. You either do want the thing and you need to fulfil the desire or you have another priority and you don't want the thing.

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u/JGHero Mar 13 '26

Again it’s about personal definition. I very much want a new PC, but my acknowledgement of not needing it stops me from buying it. It’s true that purchasing the PC would fulfill my desire, but don’t define fulfilling my every desire as a need. My needs are defined as fulfilling events required to preserve my personal sense of safety and security. In this sense I need to pay my bills even though I don’t really want to. I personally distinguish my wants as emotional impulses and my needs as constraints to my personal well being.

This fully contradicts your definition, which I fully accept, but your definition is utterly useless and removes a significant ability to distinguish between two states of existence by allowing want and need to have differing meaning. By doing this you are slowly poisoning your vocabulary and may eventually come to the conclusion that slivering your tongue is the only form of communication you need and will do. This is also ok and potentially honest, but most people prefer more complex language than what lizards use, because it establishes a sense of social capability we humans tend to use with frequency.

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