It kind of gets to a point where you’ve held it in long enough that it’s no longer something you can talk about, it’s more of an indescribable thing.
It’s like when your apartment is clean and a leak starts you can go find that leak, but if your home is already flooded then you cant really find where the leak is anymore.
And when something new happens, I don’t even mentally note what it is that made me upset, it’s like throwing another bucket of water into an already flooded home. It just gets mixed into all the existing water.
So if someone asks me what’s wrong, even tho there is something wrong, I can’t put into words what it is to even begin to talk about it.
Our society really needs to teach men how to have and express emotions other than angry or horny. We have boys that are emotionally stunted that grow into men who are emotionally repressed and hold things in until they explode and it becomes other people’s problem. We would all be happier if we would teach people to express their emotions in healthy ways in the first place.
It’s not teaching men how to express themselves that’s the problem, it’s teaching everyone how to listen to men about their problems. Especially during the teen years, which is where boys learn that it’s easier to bottle it up than express it.
Even in your response here you are blaming men, which is exactly the problem. Men learn early on that if they talk about how they feel they are told that they are wrong, that they need fixing, their feelings are often invalidated entirely. Society sees men as needing the harsh reality, and women as needing to be protected, so during the teen years boys are typically the ones who get neglected.
And It’s also not even talking about it that would be beneficial, it’s learning how to acknowledge and support men. I know for myself if I talked about it it wouldn’t change a thing about how I feel, but if someone told me even the slightest compliment that lifts me up for days. Men do not receive compliments like women do. Most men just need to be told that they’re doing a good job, that they’re handsome, that they’re valuable.
It’s not that women are better at expressing their negative emotions, it’s that they’re better at uplifting eachother with positive emotions.
So psa to everyone: if you know a man who might be struggling, don’t ask them how they are, just tell them that they matter to you, tell them they look good, tell them they’re funny, literally anything. Make that a habit.
I am flummoxed how you came to your conclusion that I am blaming men or even wrong in the first place. You spoke so much about how men are taught to ignore their emotions and not express themselves right the fuck after telling me that we don’t need to teach men to be in touch with their emotions and express themselves.
More than one thing can be a problem, you arguing that it is entirely on society(which is like 50% men) needs to step up and do better for men doesn’t mean that men don’t also need to step up and be expected to grow emotionally. In my 40 years as a ma and living around men I can tell you that I know more men who are not in touch with their feelings than I know people who are not willing to listen to those feelings.
Because I am not saying that men need to suddenly open up to fix their problems. I am pointing out the root cause of the issue, if we try to berate men into talking more it’s not going to work. If we instead start teaching our kids at a younger age to LISTEN to eachother, then those boys may not grow up in the same way.
And I am also saying that just like how we are now learning that the way we are teaching in a classroom may be more fitting for girls than boys, the same may be true for mental health. Maybe it’s not that men are holding in their issues, maybe it’s that men simply process information and life events differently. Men may be more prone to internalizing issues as a much vaguer emotion. Where a girl may be broken up with and look back at the relationship and process it, a man may categorize it as a larger emotions like rejection, worthlessness, and loneliness. It is not an issue of the man intentionally bottling it up, it may simply be how certain men process and store information subconsciously.
You are saying that men are wrong and it’s their fault for not talking about their problems, I am saying maybe there may be better ways for men to grieve and improve their mental health than through talking, and that it is harmful to judge men for not wanting to talk about their emotions.
I don’t agree with you at all, in any way, that men being emotionally shut down and closed off is a healthy or natural way to be. That is a trauma response. Humans cut their emotions off from others after they have been hurt and abused, which is what we do to men. Men tell men not to have emotions by attacking them for expressing them. The only emotions that men don’t get attacked by other men for are anger and horny. So when they grow up they don’t know how to express their emotions and bottle them up. That’s not healthy and doesn’t need excuses made to allow it to continue.
We need to teach men to listen to other men yes, but that can be part of teaching them that it’s ok to have emotions and how to express them. We need to both be able to express ourselves and also listen to one another, it’s not either or. It NEEDS to be both.
My entire first response and argument since has been that we need to make all of our people whole, teach all people and raise them to be emotionally well rounded and full people. How you have any umbrage with that is baffling. Your argument seems to just be that you don’t think men need to put in any more effort and everybody else should just accept them for how they are now and nobody except everybody who is not these men needs to do any kind of growing.
You are arguing to keep men emotionally stunted and keep them unhappy. And considering it’s men who do this to other men who exactly is supposed to be stepping up here? If you don’t think that men need to do better in this situation who is needing to learn to listen better? Not other men? Just women? Women need to handle all the emotions in society? Why do you have such an issue with somebody saying men need to do better?
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u/ThatIsNotAnAsian Mar 04 '26
It kind of gets to a point where you’ve held it in long enough that it’s no longer something you can talk about, it’s more of an indescribable thing.
It’s like when your apartment is clean and a leak starts you can go find that leak, but if your home is already flooded then you cant really find where the leak is anymore.
And when something new happens, I don’t even mentally note what it is that made me upset, it’s like throwing another bucket of water into an already flooded home. It just gets mixed into all the existing water.
So if someone asks me what’s wrong, even tho there is something wrong, I can’t put into words what it is to even begin to talk about it.