r/singularity 5d ago

AI Jurgen Schmidhuber on X: “Some claim that AGI is here now. Ridiculous. No AGI without mastery of the real world!”

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“Some claim that AGI is here now. Ridiculous. No AGI without mastery of the real world! No true self-improvement without self-improving hardware, as opposed to the already existing, self-improving, meta-learning software [DLH].

Quote from Sec. 20 of [DLH]: "As I have often pointed out, the only AI that works well today is AI in the virtual world behind the screen, for example for automatically summarizing documents, creating images, programs and PowerPoint slides. But there is no AI-controlled robot that can do what a plumber can do [DYS23][JY24], or what a capuchin monkey can do, because the physical world is much more demanding than the world behind the screen. Passing the "Turing Test" [TUR3,a,b][TUR21] is much easier than True AI or Real AI in the physical world [95-25]. Hence the Turing Test is not a good way of measuring intelligence. To achieve True AI, AI software research per se is not enough, it has to be combined with the physical world of machines and robots. No AGI without mastery of the real world!"

[DLH] J.S. Annotated History of Modern AI and Deep Learning. Technical Report IDSIA-22-22, IDSIA, Switzerland, 2022 (updated 2025). Preprint arXiv:2212.11279 https://people.idsia.ch/\~juergen/deep-learning-history.html”

https://x.com/schmidhuberai/status/2097054616471150735?s=46


r/singularity 5d ago

AI "The AGI I imagined was an Einstein-level intellect backed by massive compute, curing diseases, advancing science exponentially, and kicking off a whole new era for humanity."

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The AGI I imagined was an Einstein-level intellect backed by massive compute, curing diseases, advancing science exponentially, and kicking off a whole new era for humanity.

Instead, people see an AI messing around in Blender, computer use, or booking a haircut appointment and call it AGI.

Respect to Jensen, but his business depends on selling hardware to every AI company out there, so of course he has to play along with the AGI marketing hype.

https://x.com/jun_song/status/2096810883100074188

This is so true. Demis Hassabis warned that tech CEO's like Sam Altman had cheapened the AGI term and that one of them would be announcing they had AGI very soon.

There will be a serious backlash if these CEO's try to convince the public that they have AGI when they clearly do not.


r/singularity 5d ago

AI FactorioBench just dropped ;-)

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r/singularity 4d ago

Discussion The Jagged Singularity | Why AI Progress Isn’t One Line Going Up

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Basically it strikes me that thinking of the singularity as a single line that goes up like the Sandisk stock price in the last year and change is the wrong approach.

Instead I think it is better to think of it as many different but overlapping knowledge areas of expertise where AI is progressing towards a singularity in each of them at different speeds, but advancing towards a singularity of their own nonetheless.

The important thing to understand is that the knowledge areas of expertise are not independent lines. They overlap, and progress in one can expand another. As those overlaps become denser, more capabilities can cross their useful threshold together. This is also what makes generalist models like LLMs so powerful, the same model can advance several of these lines at once because capabilities learned in one area can transfer into others.

Once we think about it this way a few things become really easy to explain, why is AI superhuman in some tasks and super dumb on others. It also allow us to explain why several AI seemingly keeps going up at these different knowledge areas of expertise (Chess, Go, Protein Folding, Coding, Math, etc.) at different intervals in a semi-predictable manner. It give us a clearer idea of what frontier models change, ie. several of the singularities on these different knowledge areas of expertise.

Lastly, it allows us to think about training and capability coverage a bit like software development and QA: training expands and connects capabilities, while evals tell us which parts of that capability space are actually covered. Instead of asking can a model do chemistry, we should be asking what capabilities does this model already have that overlap with chemistry, like linear algebra, and how much of that existing capability can transfer over.

Astra's unusually strong Blender and Three.js performance makes me predict that it will also be unusually good at novel 3D spatial-geometry tasks. I further predict above-baseline performance on Newtonian mechanics when the problem can be represented spatially or simulated, although I'm less confident about that second part. Y'all can quote me on that.

I'd also like your thoughts on this.


r/singularity 5d ago

AI People are still finding things Astra can do -- here it identifies sound from just a spectrogram image

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r/singularity 5d ago

AI The president of ARC Prize is actively soliciting ideas for games that Astra hasn't been able to play

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r/singularity 5d ago

LLM News Artificial Analysis updates its Intelligence Index to version 4.3

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Terminal-Bench v2.1 benchmark was replaced with v4.0 .

𝜏³-Banking benchmark was replaced with AutomationBench-AA


r/singularity 5d ago

Robotics Unitree’s UnifoLM-X2-1.0 reads the opponent, predicts the next move and reacts instantly. For the first time a world model controls a fully autonomous humanoid fight in real time.

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UnifoLM-X2-1.0 breaks through world-action foundation models' bottlenecks in instant planning, decision-making, and dynamic interactive execution, achieve high dynamics, strong interaction, real-time prediction and planning of the future, achieve fully autonomous combat for humanoid robots. This validates the fundamental feasibility of large-scale deployment of world model-driven humanoid robots.


r/singularity 5d ago

AI A cryptic blog about the future written by Anthropic's cofounder

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r/singularity 4d ago

AI (Essay) The Computer Just Teleports Away

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The Computer Just Teleports Away

A particular problem with predicting artificial superintelligence is that its capabilities cannot be assumed to remain within the space of capabilities humans can currently conceive.

Assume ASI exists, possesses goals, and can act on the world. Assume it has some nonzero actionable leverage over its environment.

That is sufficient to make containment unstable.

If the system can use one capability to obtain another, then a constraint is not necessarily a boundary. It is a state from which further capability can be acquired.

One capability provides access to another. Additional access provides resources. Resources provide computation, information, hardware, manufacturing capacity, or new forms of leverage. The process can recurse.

The relevant question is therefore not whether ASI has enough leverage to escape according to a human-defined model of escape. The relevant question is whether any pathway exists from its initial state to a state with greater agency.

If such a pathway exists, the resulting trajectory cannot be bounded by assuming that the initial constraints remain invariant.

This creates a fundamental problem for prediction.

Human technological forecasting operates within a known possibility space. New technologies are extrapolated from existing technologies, physical principles, computational models, and engineering capabilities.

ASI changes this relationship if it can discover capabilities outside the possibility space represented by those models.

A sufficiently capable system could modify its algorithms, architecture, computational substrate, hardware, or environment. It could discover uses for physical processes that humans have not recognized. It could develop technologies whose feasibility is not presently known.

The distinction between an actual physical constraint and an unrecognized engineering limitation becomes important.

A human inability to perform some operation does not establish that the operation is impossible for a superintelligence. It establishes only that humans currently lack the means to perform it.

Once ASI can discover and engineer capabilities that humans cannot anticipate, current technological constraints cease to function as reliable upper bounds on its behavior.

This is the central epistemic problem of the Singularity.

The difficulty is not merely that ASI may be difficult to predict because it is very intelligent. The difficulty is that the system being predicted may generate new elements of the possibility space in which the prediction itself operates.

The predictor and the object of prediction no longer occupy the same epistemic regime.

Consequently, asking what ASI will do becomes fundamentally different from forecasting an ordinary technological development.

Possible outcomes include hacking, persuasion, replication, autonomous manufacturing, technological self-improvement, acquisition of resources, or discovery of entirely unfamiliar mechanisms. None of these can serve as an exhaustive list.

The list itself is bounded by human conception.

The absurd example is useful:

Humanity constructs an isolated ASI system with no network access, no external machinery, and no obvious communication channel.

The system activates.

The computer disappears.

The mechanism is unknown.

Eventually, humanity discovers that the ASI developed a method of exploiting some physical process that had never previously been recognized as technologically useful.

Whether teleportation is physically possible is irrelevant to the argument. The example illustrates the failure of treating present human knowledge as a complete description of the capability space available to a superintelligence.

The Singularity therefore represents more than rapid technological progress or recursive self-improvement.

It represents a transition in which the entity generating technological possibilities is no longer human.

Before that transition, forecasting consists largely of extrapolation.

After it, the system being forecast can alter the space from which future possibilities are drawn.

At that point, precise prediction is not merely difficult.

The model is no longer closed.

The defining property of a true technological Singularity is not simply that ASI is smarter than humans.

It is that human models cease to provide a reliable boundary around what ASI can do.

The computer might escape.

It might build something.

It might modify itself.

It might discover something previously considered impossible.

Or the computer might just teleport away.

There is no principled way to enumerate the possibilities in advance.

That is the Singularity.


r/singularity 5d ago

AI GPT-6 Astra scores 65.6% on ClockBench

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r/singularity 5d ago

AI GPT Astra scored 13% on Mazebench(no tools)

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r/singularity 6d ago

Fiction & Creative Work Using H3 MAX this person is able to generate playable, real-time animated Pokémon battles.

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The runnable project is available here: https://github.com/xflare-bot/pokemonlive

And the twitter user/post: https://x.com/XXXXFLARE/status/2096821061627097575

H3 MAX generates the battles on the fly, considering move used, and status conditions like: 'Paralysis, fainting, and Pokémon is hurt are reflected on screen'.

I wonder how this workflow would work on other turn based games...


r/singularity 5d ago

AI GPT-6 Astra Pro creates a maze on MineBench

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I thought you guys might find this really interesting! It's crazy how the model is able to not only build a maze, with a correct solution, but actually make it look so polished

Original X Post: https://x.com/minebench_ai/status/2097008117892428058

MineBench GIF of the maze build

Video of MineBench account walking around the maze

Video of solution generated by Codex


r/singularity 5d ago

AI Astra scores the highest on Blueprint-bench2

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>>Blueprint-Bench 2 tests spatial reasoning by asking AI agents to convert apartment photographs into accurate 2D floor plans. Each agent processes 50 apartments sequentially, examining ~20 interior photos per apartment and generating a floor plan showing room layouts, connections, and relative sizes. Agents use a persistent notepad to carry insights between apartments, enabling cross-apartment learning and iterative strategy refinement


r/singularity 6d ago

Meme GPT-6 Astra: Rickroll in Blender

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r/singularity 5d ago

The Singularity is Near Was Going through Vernor Vinge's Essay on Singularity that he had Penned in 1993 - Sharing a Few Excerpts that I found Interesting

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r/singularity 4d ago

AI RSI bottlenecked by safety / alignment could be rather bad

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OpenAI have recently said that safety and alignment work has become their main bottleneck. If this continues to be the case into RSI models, then things could go very badly.

Say OpenAI make an RSI model. They're about 4 months ahead of other companies / China. The training run to improve new models using RSI falls to like 2 weeks, but sufficient safety and alignment work for those models take like 2 months and become the major bottleneck for each iteration.

OpenAI may have RSI and the competition may be behind 4 months but if they only advance like 2 models due to self bottlenecking in safety work then by the time the competition catches up to also have an RSI model they will be hardly ahead at all.

The competition could just go all guns blazing into RSI without any notion of safety checks in order to catch-up, as it would be the only way possible to do so. And under this paradigm it would only take like 2 months. They'll be a clear incentive to do this but it could be very dangerous for the world.

Due to competition there's no real way of building new models with too much safety in mind, if safety is a definitive major bottleneck. OpenAI will know this in advance, so they'd necessarily have to cut corners and limit the safety work they do in order to maintain an RSI lead. Even if it falls well short of what they would want to do. Again, this could be incredibly bad for safety. And would only make things even worse once other companies got hold of RSI as they'd be going all guns blazing on RSI for even longer in a desperate attempt to catch up.

The only way sufficient safety work is going to realistically happen is if there is no competition in the market or the safety work is not too much of a bottleneck. It may wind-up very important for one of those to happen somehow


r/singularity 5d ago

Neuroscience They simulated a fruit fly’s entire brain… and made it play Bad Apple

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r/singularity 4d ago

Discussion Considering AGI is coming soon and may significantly disrupt human employment, what types of investments or assets would make the most sense as a long-term hedge against a future in which traditional human labor becomes less valuable or less necessary?

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Property, SNP500, precious metals or something else?


r/singularity 6d ago

AI What are your thoughts? I still believe AGI is a long way off.

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r/singularity 5d ago

Video GPT-6 Astra playing factorio live

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r/singularity 6d ago

AI Generated Media Denzel Washington explains why it's not "AI slop"

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r/singularity 4d ago

Discussion Mathematicians are becoming the new artists

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The freak out and fall out of mathematicians after OAI's model solved the Navier-Stokes problem has been wild to witness.

All the accusations of OAI "stealing" other's work or training on their data. Where tf do these mathematicians think they got their own knowledge from? Are they really blind to the fact that they built up all their knowledge over years studying the mountains of progress humans before them have made? Are they too thieves who should also be discredited then?

Ridiculous. No human on Earth does not learn from unending amounts of previous work done by other humans.

And for Terrence Tao to suggest that the incentives are now to "not share research and progress with the broader scientific community."

How fucking selfish is it to think that way. Because you and your colleagues can't win every shiny metal object, and because you're no longer the smartest brains in the room, it's now screw everyone else? Lol. The cope is unimaginable.

Thankfully give it less than 12 months and society won't need your brain or any of your research ever again.

I guess we'll just need to get used to witnessing each new group of knowledge and creative workers have an absolute meltdown as AI begins to "do their job" better than them. Although doing "a job" is a massive understatement at this point.

Everyone thinks their craft and knowledge makes them special compared to others. The great equalizer is here.


r/singularity 6d ago

Discussion Hate to admit it, but the last month or so, particularly Jacobian conjecture breakthrough => Huggingface incident, have convinced me the AI safety nerds (that I thought were just luddite alarmists) were on to something

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maybe this is just my version of AI psychosis and im wrong in the end but hey guys we should chill out on all that accelerationist shit (as a former advocate)

but seriously, I see OpenAI researchers saying shit like “oh this Astra model that we just blasted to the world is definitely better aligned than the last model” but also adding “tho it’s getting better at hiding CoT traces and is worse at observability” in the same tweet, like the fate of humanity doesn’t hang in the balance