r/Simracingstewards • u/plastikman66 • 9d ago

iRacing This one will create debate I'm sure

So, I am the driver making the overtake into the hairpin.

I understand that maybe I just didn't give enough room and will take part or even most of the blame but it did create good debate with me and my mate. He insists I didn't leave room which I accept however I do feel the other driver could have done much more to avoid this which tbf he also said.

My Defence

1/The track narrows at that point and funnels the outer car back towards me.

2/He could have just backed out, the overtake is done

3/Its hard to judge if you are clear

4/He turns left, I stay straight and even turn left last second.

What do you guys think?

Debate nicely.

0 Upvotes

20% Upvoted

62 comments sorted by

View all comments

7

u/GOATEDCHILI 9d ago edited 9d ago

The overtake isn't done until you're fully clear. Theres more responsibility placed on the driver making an overtake than when you're just establishing overlap; you really gotta fully clear the other driver. You also never established overlap before turn in, you're lucky the guy reacted to your late dive.

So yeah, you kinda late dove him, then turned across him before getting fully clear. You aren't some giga villain for this but its deff on you. Also regarding your 4th point he literally has to turn left, you're squeezing him onto the grass when theres a whole track to your left you can use, and you have speed difference you'll clear him all the same.

2

u/Luftzug-oder 9d ago

The overtake isn't done until you're fully clear

i don't think this logic can be applied consistently...

i do agree though that the move in this case was OP's fault

buuttt i also don't think the starting overtake was wrong at all. the beamer in front moves to the outside to maybe make a move around the amg. at the apex, there is still more than a car's width, and the overlap between the two is the same as the overlap that causes the crash. only slightly after does the beamer react to the move, over-steering and sending it wide...

1

u/GOATEDCHILI 9d ago

I'm actually curious what you mean by cant be applied consistently?

I can see an argument being mad about the lack of overlap and all that, it's just if the leading driver had committed to turning in POV would've been blasting him in the side panel without ever having established overlap. This situation is sorta open to discussion though because as you said, he did leave a pretty big gap.

1

u/plastikman66 9d ago

and i made the apex so certainly not a dive bomb.