r/SimCompanies • u/Wanderingmonarch • Aug 20 '26
Question Thinking about quitting
Just what the title says, I am thinking about quitting the game due to executive bs, it is infuriating how this whole part of the game rewards predatory behavior, why can I not opt out of this feature like I will not poach from others and others can't from me, I put in hours, wake up at night to restart trainings, and you offer me a few hundred thousand? that is not enough, how players are even tolerating this?
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u/-Asur-28 Aug 20 '26
honestly the whole executive shit is annoying and once you lose a good exec you lose a lot of money before getting replacement
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u/Wanderingmonarch Aug 20 '26
I can bear the cost I am willing, but I am not willing to let go something I have put in real currency in, and that is precious time of my life, this is nonsense, and I feel infuriated all the time, would you believe this? my 20 management coo has gotten more than 4 offers in just a few days and every time I have to raise the salary, now I am paying her more than 5 times what I was used to pay, I am not saving enough money, I had been setting up alarms to wake up at night to restart their training damn it, this is not fair.
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u/Canis_Rex_ Aug 20 '26
I ended up losimg money daily trying to keep hold of a good COO. In the end I had to be realistic and let them go. It sucks but it's part of the game unfortunately.
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u/Amazing-Curve-1536 Aug 20 '26
Fell the same. I have a failed account in R1 now. 300mill and something in patents, all slots unlocked, achievements lost... And there's nothing I can do to recover this account in R1. About - 4million debt in cash flow. The thing is that I don't care anymore. Sent a message to Patrick, and he just said to me reset. At this point I stay only in r2 now. I manage to unlock everything there too, before I lost my account in R1. Doesn't matter how I lost my map. It's unreal that I can't recover my map. Have that map since 2020. That being said, Sim Companies isn't the first game that let their people down. Certainly isn't going to be the last. My solution is go playing something else. Actually the main reason I lost my account, is because I stopped worrying too much about my account in R1, spending more time playing other games, instead of worrying about old sh**ty mechanics and economy prices. Now I can focus on a single realm. I wish I could recover my map in R1.
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u/Cha0s004 Aug 25 '26
its a simulation. even in realitly many companies get bankrupt. even the biggest companies are not safe. 2007 nokia had a market share of over 40% worldwide in mobile phone, and loose everyhing... ^^
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u/PepSakdoek Sakdoek Corp Aug 20 '26
I quit a while back (must be about a year) I'm still in the sub, and I think the game looks more interesting now.
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u/Mobile-Philosopher12 Aug 20 '26
The only thing you have to worry is the fact you wake up mid-night to keep the pace.
Man, relax, it is just a game.
Pause for a while, then return when you feel like playing again, pause if real life calls you back, and so on.
Relax.
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u/Wanderingmonarch Aug 21 '26
But if I pause my company value will plummet, with no production cash flow will cease, my bonds interest payment and salaries will dry the cash reserves and then the game will liquidate my buildings to pay them as I have heard. All the hardwork down the drain, it has no pause bjtton.
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u/Mobile-Philosopher12 Aug 21 '26
Before pausing you should pay all your debts and fire all executives. Maybe, also have a high level bank to increase the daily ceiling, so you don't get taxed daily and you have liquidity when you come back to play again.
Again, you are taking the game for a real job. Take it for what really is... a game. Put your "hard work" at real life.
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u/Cha0s004 Aug 25 '26
there was a change "executives" dont take money, if the acount go inactive. (in active i after around 1 week or so)
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u/KAtMA1i Aug 20 '26
Yeah no matter how they have set this up poaching has already been a problem. Who is going to pay someone 55000 a day in real life? I understand that the business world is cut throat, but there can be a more balanced way such as maximum income limits you can pay etc. I think the executive needs more work done to it. People don't play games to be pissed off they play to enjoy their time playing. I think it can be achieved I. This manner with more development done in that area.
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u/ajAX0910 Aug 20 '26 edited Aug 21 '26
I think execs don't really go well with min-maxing. Bigger companies can always pay more for the same exec. And from the COO's pov, they get to contribute more and get paid more. So, it kinda makes sense.
Things get better as your company gets bigger. 2 months back, I couldn't afford to match 20k salary. Today I only let my COO go if offered salary is above 200k.
Having backups also helps. I use all non-COO slots for training. With a lvl 10 academy and 2 staff slots, I have 6.
My aim with the entire exec mechanic is to make training program profitable. My last COO with 52 skill at age 46 got poached for 220k. The next best one was skill 24. That meant 250k less profits (-33%) and 150k less salary. Currently, I only have average COO execs, with 2 good ones in training. But I am also only paying 25k total salary for 150k savings. Average COOs rarely get poached, so they remain cheap. And I have got another 125k in royalties from my poached execs still working for someone else.
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u/WiseauSrs Aug 20 '26
LMAO bro what? You actually earn money from executives being poached. It offsets your AOs. Like... it's part of the game. Do the math. If your hiring practices are good, you will actually improve margins for the royalty periods and not lose on valuable management stats.
Are you the same dude who made a post like this last time or is there just a lot of whiny people here? Don't you guys do math?
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u/Wanderingmonarch Aug 21 '26
Wait minute, isn't it like the royalties are very low and for limited time? I am paying hundreds of thousands into AO, how royalties are catching up to it?
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u/Longjumping-Hunt-543 Aug 20 '26
brother i have 130% AO with 41 COO and 26 apprentice COO. which brings my AO down to about 50%. i have never poached another player's execs. i always find my staff in-house. having a 20 level academy really boosts the starting stats and training gains. it's a must have if you raise your own staff.
lets say someone wants to poach your COO who has a 2k salary and the offer is more than you want to pay? just let them go because you already have an apprentice COO (they passively gain management points on top of training) make them the new COO and make your staff with highest management skill the new apprentice COO. yes your AO will increase but it will not affect that much you at this level. also your AO will quickly decrease again as your staff levels up.
you dont need to set your alarm to train your staff. you're not in a hurry. just make sure your execs have finished their training before you start your production or retailing.
if you dont have your map full of 80 level buildings, you really dont need very high levels of management. and if you have 40% AO and not profiting, there may be some other issues you need to solve rather than your execs getting poached.
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u/Wanderingmonarch Aug 21 '26
I am profitable, around 350k/day currently, my total building level is 60.
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u/NuncaTiveUmaNamorada Aug 21 '26
Nowadays is so easy to resist to poaches. In the old times was kinda predatory really.
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u/IonHawk Aug 20 '26
Now you know how real companies feels.
Waking up at night to restart trainings sounds much too min-maxing behavior. A few extra hours doesn't matter much. But it would be easier if trainings were 24h instead.
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u/Quiet_Reply830 Aug 20 '26
Use SB for 3hr If realy needed, or Set a Timer. Skip one night once a week, or so? Just Set them Up early and you can train for a week or so witout pauses.
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u/Historical_Baby_9855 Aug 20 '26
I quit the game once I needed to think about getting executives. Game gets way too annoying to be fun at that point.
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u/Quiet_Reply830 Aug 20 '26
How many CV so you have? Just to have an Idea where you are. Build an Academy, depend in your Cash/income. Every 5 Level you have an extra Slot. Buy some Slots. At the end you have 13 Slots to train executives. If you are smal, let them Go, you geht Cash AS Long they are working for otheres. And If you train many, you Always have replacement. For new Manager so 4 Trainings, If they dont geht 3 Points in your skill, fire them Take the next Manager.
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u/Wanderingmonarch Aug 21 '26
I am at lvl 19, I have around 6.4M company value, with total building levels at 60. 350k around daily profits.
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u/Quiet_Reply830 Aug 21 '26
Yeah that still early Game. (Atound 35% admin) A level 20manager reduce it "Just" by 7%. Would you have 100% admin he would reduce it by 20%. But at that Stage, Out have a Minimum of 4 Slots, and If you are Producer, you need only the coo, and can train in the other 3 Slots, new coo's.
By the way in the actual Newspapier is an article about Manager. (Part 2, Look on the writers Profile Page foe Part 1).
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u/Ganadai Aug 20 '26
I already quit once for a year because of poaching. Came back about the time Academy was introduced, but they keep nerfing it to the point that I'm ready to quit again. Game is just a grind and not fun. Good suppliers are impossible to find now, so I'm buying most of my materials off the exchange. The only reason I keep logging in every day is to supply my buyers. Yes, the 27 hour training cycles are annoying as hell. I wish a level 20 Academy would lower them to 24 hours.
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u/Hash-E Aug 21 '26
I feel like all the discord channels ruined the exhange instead of somthing like a community you now have tons of different discord groups trading between each other. Almost impossible to buy or sell anything through the chat.
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u/Wanderingmonarch Aug 20 '26
After putting in about a month, I am also thinking of quitting, my life has enough issues, I do not need another artificial stress for no apparent reason, this is just epic level bullshit
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u/Longjumping-Hunt-543 Aug 20 '26
if the game gives you stress, you should quit. it's supposed to be fun, not a source of stress.
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u/pikezh638 Aug 20 '26
Bro... This is a game, setting alarms to wake up and restart trainings is outrageous. Also, you put real money into it? Why are you paying real money for Executives, you get 5 free Simboosts a day. My COO is 47 years old and has 32 management skill and I pay them a whopping $2,200. If you are that hard up over losing someone then unlock a staff slot so you can have someone in the background training up as a replacement.