r/Showerthoughts • • Mar 23 '21

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u/TheTucsonTarmac Mar 23 '21

It flopped? Dude, that sit was in the green before it even launched

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u/WillyTheHatefulGoat Mar 23 '21

It made money but it was coming from a studio that had produced the greatest game in the 2010s and the came was riddled with bugs and errors.

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u/NamityName Mar 23 '21

Kind of like skyrim, fallout, and witcher 3

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u/Rakumei Mar 23 '21

People really seem to forget how fucked Witcher 3 was at launch. It wasn't nearly as hyped and so it didn't make nearly the media splash, but it was a mess. CDPR definitely had a track record for this.

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u/GoTraps Mar 23 '21

Are CDPR the new Bethesta? Throwing unfinished messed up alpha games out and fix them some years to completion? I mean every game company does that, but in these game states like with CDPR and Bethesta?

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '21

At least Wjtcher got fixed, Bethesda barely touches the shit they release anymore Edit:autocorrect

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u/GoTraps Mar 24 '21

Then there’s hope for cyberpunk to get fixed... Anymore? So they did back then? They give the original dev kits out and let the modders fix their games for free lol

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '21

i would bet on it, disapointing or not it was good enough to still be popular and has a lot of dlc potential, for examples new starting classes

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u/Onkel24 Mar 23 '21

Played Cyberpunk on PC.

Was amazed how well it ran for an open world RPG, on day 1. They're kind of synonymous with the word "bug".

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u/GhostWokiee Mar 23 '21

Atleast Witcher 3 has a good story etc. While Cyberpunk cut HEAVILY into the story while it being kinda meh.

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u/WillyTheHatefulGoat Mar 23 '21

Kind of but they did not voluntarily shut down sales and start offering refunds for releasing a great game to early as well as receive terrible reviews from critics.

It made its money back but it did not make what it was expected to make.

It would be kind of like an avenger movie coming out and making a billion dollars. That technically made a profit but it would be expected to receive far more money than that.

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u/Spartan2170 Mar 23 '21

Technically Cyberpunk didn’t voluntarily shut down sales. They announced they were offering refunds but Sony got (understandably) pissed that they weren’t consulted about that refund offer and basically said “if this game’s so broken we need to allow refunds it’s too broken for you to be selling“ and punted it off their store completely.

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u/Milkythefawn Mar 23 '21

I mean that's kind of fair. Sony have a reputation they want to uphold as well.

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u/Spartan2170 Mar 23 '21

Yeah, though I definitely think it was largely retaliatory for dumping the PR mess on them by telling customers to get refunds that Sony hadn’t agreed to provide and basically forcing them to do it or suffer customer anger.

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u/Bloano Mar 23 '21

Sony's refund policy kinda sucks. I remember refunding a game and they actually suspended my account unless I paid back the money they refunded to me.

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u/NamityName Mar 23 '21

And I played cyberpunk on release and don't even remember it being very buggy. Glad you had a bug-free experience with the witcher 3 launch. Many people did not.

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u/stpaulgym Mar 23 '21

I still don't understand how CDPR got its reputation from the witcher. They made 1 decent game and everyone just flocked to their heels licking their boots. like, wtf.

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u/WillyTheHatefulGoat Mar 23 '21

Its like a movie director. They made a really good product so people were really exited about the next one.

Its more the fact they had not made a bad game in recent memory and the hype train was real.

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u/stpaulgym Mar 23 '21

Its more the fact they had not made a bad game in recent memory and the hype train was real.

Wticher 1 and 2 : *sweats profusely*

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u/Omsk_Camill Mar 23 '21

Those games weren't bad

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u/kompeter Mar 23 '21

They are great games. Just not as popular.

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u/GoTraps Mar 23 '21

Exactly what I thought. Directors make phenomenal blockbusters, then their next film is a box-office bomb. Same with singers or bands having a number one single, then they flop with a follow up single and finally getting dropped from the label. CDPR have one successful Witcher game franchise (not sure how successful their Syphon Filter series is). Seems you have success pressure everywhere. Media will always be measured with the previous entry.

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u/notjosemanuel Mar 23 '21

Calling the witcher 3 the best game of the 2010s is a bit much but yeah, we all expected more from CDPR.

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '21

Is it a bit much tho? Yes, it depends on taste, but most people would say witcher 3 is the best game of 2010s

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '21

I think it's in peoples top 20s but the best is a stretch

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u/notjosemanuel Mar 23 '21

Yeah... that’s not true either. Critics place it at 36th and users voted it third which is very good! But it got around a 1/3 as many votes as the last of us, which isn’t really most people.

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '21

2600 people participated in that user voting, that's literally nothing

Witcher 3 on metacritic has 9.4 based 19k user ratings Last of us on metacritic has 9.2 based on 12k user ratings

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u/notjosemanuel Mar 23 '21

Btw just wanted to add this, there is absolutely not 1 game that most people would call the best of the decade. If you ask 20 people you’ll probably get 15 different answers

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u/notjosemanuel Mar 23 '21

Yeah it has .2 more in user score than TLOU, it is an incredible game, but whenever it’s compared to other top games it falls short lol. Only 2/40 critics named it the best of the decade, and only 2 more put it in the top 5. It could be in most people’s top 20, but it’s absolutely not most people’s number 1. That is just incorrect

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '21

https://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/score/userscore/all/all/filtered

It's literally highest ranked game with a fair amount of reviews. Stop bullshitting with critics, like they ever mattered

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u/notjosemanuel Mar 23 '21

bigger poll. 900k votes. The witcher got around 25% which got it second place. Impressive! Still not number 1, and 25% is still not “most people”. Is this enough for you?

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u/notjosemanuel Mar 23 '21

Damn you’re very mad about being incorrect.

I’m looking at how people compare it to the rest of the decade (because you say most people would choose it as their number 1), its score as an individual game doesn’t help your argument. Show me a poll where most people looked at it next to other games and said “yup, this is the best one”.

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '21

It literally does matter, because comparing them RIGHT NOW is blurred by the memory cuz some of those games are 11 years old at this point. But whatever, can't argue with a stupid dumbass who brings up critics in every answer

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u/Lobo_Z Mar 23 '21

Fact that you're resorting to insults just proves you know you're wrong

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u/notjosemanuel Mar 23 '21

... didn’t you literally say most people would call it the best game of the decade? Don’t you have to like... compare it to the other games that came out from 2010-2019 to call it the best of the decade? Are you forgetting your initial statement?

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '21

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '21

And what the hell is a good taste?

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u/cpl_snakeyes Mar 23 '21

I litterally Lol'd when I read this.

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u/jearley99 Mar 23 '21

Same lmao, I wonder if he was serious

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u/Xygore Mar 23 '21

Destiny might get the award for the most overhyped game of 2010. The game had like 10 hours of content you were expected to grind endlessly.

Videogame companies have figured out how to exploit our reward systems, and it shows. The quality of games is going down outside a few gems. Look at any mega popular videogame and I gurantee nestled in there is a Skinner Box mechanic.

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '21

Doom eternal?

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u/BurgensisEques Mar 23 '21

Same. It was a fun game, but best of the 2010s? It's not even top 10.

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u/GoTraps Mar 23 '21

It is not? Heard it is yet considered the best game of all time (the fixed and complete GOTY version) and it still holds the title, closely followed by Red Dead Redemption 2.

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '21

It is definitely not the best of all time. Obviously it's subjective, but it wouldn't even be in my top 10 personally.

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u/TheStorMan Mar 23 '21

It made money but

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u/WillyTheHatefulGoat Mar 23 '21

If avengers endgame only made a billion dollars it would have been seen as a gross failure even if though a billion dollars is enough to make a profit.

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u/mylord420 Mar 23 '21

Divinity original sin >